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Genuine question: In what sense is OpenAI open ?

ilaksh 7y ago
Its just like the bag of sugar I have in my cabinet that claims to be low calorie. It says "ONLY 16 CALORIES (per 4 grams in tiny letters)". I mean, sugar is pretty much the definition of a high calorie food. Its like, pure calories. And can affect insulin regulation, etc. That's why they need to put some marketing on it.
- dkersten 7y ago
  Off topic, I know, however, this reminded me of TV adverts we used to have in my country when I was young where they were saying how great sugar is because it has 0% fat... If only the butter companies responded with adverts about how they're 0% sugar, that would have been fun. :/
  - rapind 7y ago
    Low carb / no carb is gaining in popularity (and some products label it). Sugar is finally becoming the bad guy despite enormous lobbying efforts over a very long time (since the 60s?).
- EForEndeavour 7y ago
  Super nitpicky: sugar is 4 kcal/gram, but so is protein, and fats is 9 kcal/g, over double the caloric content. By saying sugar is "pure calories," I guess you mean that it doesn't contain any fibre or micronutrients that might give it redeeming qualities (besides its taste), which is true.
  - jacques_chester 7y ago
    Most people are not putting spoonfuls of beef in their coffee. Sugar is, quite literally, pure carbohydrates. Most sources of protein are not, unless you're consuming refined amino acids (pro tip: they taste awful).
    - AnimalMuppet 7y ago
      > Most people are not putting spoonfuls of beef in their coffee. That could be... interesting. It could be in the form of beef bullion, so you really could put in a spoonful. But I wonder if bacon would be better...
      - hoseja 7y ago
        Brits have that, it's called Bovril.
    - EForEndeavour 7y ago
      Lots of people do add cream, though, and some people add coconut oil (MCT oil) or actual cow's-milk butter.
achow 7y ago
I guess it started as one, but a pivot happened.. Mr. Musk left the lab last year to concentrate on his own A.I. ambitions at Tesla. Since then, Mr. Altman has remade OpenAI, founded as a nonprofit, into a for-profit company so it could more aggressively pursue financing. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/22/technology/open-ai-microsoft.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/22/technology/open-ai-micros...
mariushn 7y ago
Good question. Looks like Microsoft bought a partner to help them make Azure more competitive with Google & Amazon, both on hardware scalability and quality of their AI offerings: > we’ll be working hard together to further extend Microsoft Azure’s capabilities > Instead, we intend to license some of our pre-AGI technologies, with Microsoft becoming our preferred partner for commercializing them. In the end, it's a win-win. If OpenAI remains partially open , it's still better for rest of the world too, better than nothing. But, as achow said, it did pivot.
warabe 7y ago
OpenAI should change their name. Seriously, it’s confusing.

Its just like the bag of sugar I have in my cabinet that claims to be low calorie. It says "ONLY 16 CALORIES (per 4 grams in tiny letters)". I mean, sugar is pretty much the definition of a high calorie food. Its like, pure calories. And can affect insulin regulation, etc. That's why they need to put some marketing on it.

dkersten 7y ago
Off topic, I know, however, this reminded me of TV adverts we used to have in my country when I was young where they were saying how great sugar is because it has 0% fat... If only the butter companies responded with adverts about how they're 0% sugar, that would have been fun. :/
- rapind 7y ago
  Low carb / no carb is gaining in popularity (and some products label it). Sugar is finally becoming the bad guy despite enormous lobbying efforts over a very long time (since the 60s?).
EForEndeavour 7y ago
Super nitpicky: sugar is 4 kcal/gram, but so is protein, and fats is 9 kcal/g, over double the caloric content. By saying sugar is "pure calories," I guess you mean that it doesn't contain any fibre or micronutrients that might give it redeeming qualities (besides its taste), which is true.
- jacques_chester 7y ago
  Most people are not putting spoonfuls of beef in their coffee. Sugar is, quite literally, pure carbohydrates. Most sources of protein are not, unless you're consuming refined amino acids (pro tip: they taste awful).
  - AnimalMuppet 7y ago
    > Most people are not putting spoonfuls of beef in their coffee. That could be... interesting. It could be in the form of beef bullion, so you really could put in a spoonful. But I wonder if bacon would be better...
    - hoseja 7y ago
      Brits have that, it's called Bovril.
  - EForEndeavour 7y ago
    Lots of people do add cream, though, and some people add coconut oil (MCT oil) or actual cow's-milk butter.

achow 7y ago

I guess it started as one, but a pivot happened.. Mr. Musk left the lab last year to concentrate on his own A.I. ambitions at Tesla. Since then, Mr. Altman has remade OpenAI, founded as a nonprofit, into a for-profit company so it could more aggressively pursue financing. https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/22/technology/open-ai-microsoft.html https://www.nytimes.com/2019/07/22/technology/open-ai-micros...

mariushn 7y ago

Good question. Looks like Microsoft bought a partner to help them make Azure more competitive with Google & Amazon, both on hardware scalability and quality of their AI offerings: > we’ll be working hard together to further extend Microsoft Azure’s capabilities > Instead, we intend to license some of our pre-AGI technologies, with Microsoft becoming our preferred partner for commercializing them. In the end, it's a win-win. If OpenAI remains partially open , it's still better for rest of the world too, better than nothing. But, as achow said, it did pivot.

warabe 7y ago

OpenAI should change their name. Seriously, it’s confusing.