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Org-mode on web, built with React, for mobile, synced with Dropbox, Google Drive

438 points by moioci 7y ago

fock 7y ago
looks nice! though the focus on proprietary API-based backends (?!) is a bit puzzling? how about commiting to a git repo on the web server. Running within nextcloud?
- imglorp 7y ago
  Encrypt the file and throw on IPFS?
- yourfate 7y ago
  This is the problem I also have with this. Give it a git backend, and I might use it. Even an s3 backend would be ok.
- iamnothere 7y ago
  More backends have been considered: https://github.com/DanielDe/org-web/issues/5 https://github.com/DanielDe/org-web/issues/5 Would be nice to see Syncthing support.
- DanielDe 7y ago
  I think those are great ideas, I just haven’t gotten around to them yet. This was largely a scratch-your-own-itch kind of project for me, and I sync my org file with Dropbox, so that was my priority.
diehunde 7y ago
what % of the org-mode API is currently implemented?
- DanielDe 7y ago
  Author here - I’m not sure % wise, but quite a few features now have first-class support. Those that don’t simply fall back to plain text, which you can always resort to editing directly in org-web. You can see a list of the implemented features (and try them yourself) in the sample file here: https://org-web.org/ https://org-web.org/
  - mruts 7y ago
    Is there support for in line images and LaTeX? I haven’t tried org-web but this looks seriously awesome! Good work!
    - DanielDe 7y ago
      Not currently, no. Thanks so much!
_pmf_ 7y ago
Looks nice! Will there be either OneDrive or Standard Notes support at one point? EDIT: nevermind, it's open source, so I'll look into it; maybe as an editor for Standard Notes?
secure 7y ago
This looks cool! But could you (if you are the author?) please restrict the Google Drive permissions from “See, edit, create and delete all of your Google Drive files” to only affect a sub directory of my drive please? That’s best practice for isolation. Thanks!
- moioci 7y ago
  not the author, just a non-techy person who wants to try org mode without the complexity of emacs.
  - gryffin 7y ago
    A non-techy person who has heard of emacs!
    - gregknicholson 7y ago
      "Non-techy" is Impostor Syndrome for "somewhat techy".
    - fipar 7y ago
      I think org-mode has contributed a lot to making emacs more popular (or less obscure, depending on how you see it? :) ) See this for example: https://github.com/incandescentman/Emacs-Settings https://github.com/incandescentman/Emacs-Settings
  - na85 7y ago
    Just as a bit of encouragement, I used emacs for like 4 years knowing only 5 commands (open file, change buffers, save file, kill buffer, close emacs). It's not that bad if you wade into it slowly.
- DanielDe 7y ago
  Yep, I should’ve done that in the first place, and it’s on my todo list, though I haven’t put many hours into org-web lately. In the meantime, you can always host the project yourself if that makes you feel a bit more comfortable about linking to GDrive (though this doesn’t solve every potential privacy issue, of course)
grecht 7y ago
Great stuff! I was looking for something like this just a couple of days ago.
chrisweekly 7y ago
Awesome! Thanks for making this, and for sharing here, and for open-sourcing it! :)
DanielDe 7y ago
Hey all, I’m the author of org-web. It was pretty cool to wake up this morning and see this on the front page (thanks moioci!). If you’re interested in taking org-web for a spin you can try it here: https://org-web.org/ https://org-web.org/ There’s a sample file you can play around with there if you’re not ready to link to a sync backend yet. Happy to answer any questions!
- throwanem 7y ago
  This is awesome! FYI, it looks like the add/delete row/column buttons have their targets reversed? The button whose icon suggests "add row" adds a column, etc.
  - DanielDe 7y ago
    Ah that’s just a confusing icon choice on my part. I think a more custom icon could solve this problem nicely, but I did my best to stick with what Font Awesome had available. Certainly worth improving, though - thanks for the feedback!
- earth_walker 7y ago
  This is so great, thank you Daniel. This changes everything. Next up, org-web-agenda? Edit: Already a feature. I love it.
  - DanielDe 7y ago
    :)
- serpentines 7y ago
  I'm unable to login through the Google Drive link on mobile, seems the image loads butbit doesn't click through (i.e. clicking on the image does nothing). Tried this in Firefox (with and without uMatrix and/or UBO) and Firefox Klar and Google Chrome (with JavaScript enabled).
  - DanielDe 7y ago
elliottcarlson 7y ago
"Org-mode is a document editing, formatting, and organizing mode, designed for notes, planning, and authoring within the free software text editor Emacs." In case anyone else wasn't sure what this was, and isn't an Emacs user.
- jimktrains2 7y ago
  You can use orgmode in other editors. I use vim, for instance. (Yes, the "official" module is only for emacs, but orgmode is a format and other editors have plugins for it as well.)
  - elliottcarlson 7y ago
    Good to know -- my vim setup has been pretty static for a decade now, I should probably take a peek to see what I can change every once in a while.
  - michaelmrose 7y ago
    The Vim addon isn't unofficial its a different program inspired by org mode that implements some of the features. The difference between having multiple implementations of a standard and multiple similar tools is that you really can't access the same data from multiple programs or share data with users using a different app.
    - pizza 7y ago
      People who want to try out org-mode but are familiar with vim shortcuts may want to check out spacemacs, it's an emacs distribution built to be useful for vim users. That way you can try out the real org-mode.
      - michaelmrose 7y ago
        I see a lot of spacemacs users that seem rather confused on emacs basics. Makes me think you would be better of learning emacs, adding evil to the mix. Then using a starter kit if desired.
jalopy 7y ago
Wow this is perfect. I'm using org mode more and more for everything I do and my only concern was mobile access. Thanks so much for working on this!
- michaelmrose 7y ago
  Have you tried orgzly?
jjnoakes 7y ago
Does this work offline at all? That would be a killer feature.
- vinceguidry 7y ago
  In case this isn't a joke, what's keeping you from just using emacs or an org-mode plugin for your text editor?
  - solarkraft 7y ago
    I don't like the UX, especially in a touch environment.
  - jjnoakes 7y ago
    Mobile support.
solarkraft 7y ago
This is pretty impressive. I'm not a fan of the type face and some of the design decisions, but those are rather minor points. With Git it'll be amazing.
dilap 7y ago
i'm a heavy emacs user but ive never been able to really grok org mode. what makes it special?
- na85 7y ago
  It's just a really solid markup for large plaintext documents with automa(g/t)ic formatting and the ability to embed: -Arbitrary code which can be executed and which can update/operate on the contents of the document -calendars -hyperlinks -images and other media -tables which can also act as spreadsheets a la Excel It also lets you export to just about any format including HTML and pdf via TeX, and it has broad integration across emacs so you can easily invoke portions of org-mode from your other buffers/modes. In other words it's a really flexible medium for representing and working just about anything in a plain text file. I use it as a bug tracker for personal projects, I use it for self-documenting code ("literate programming", as they say), and I use it for writing prose that I intend to export to PDF such as reports and other things because frankly org is a much saner way to write latex/xetex/whatever.
  - BeetleB 7y ago
    Beyond being "just" a markup, it's also a pretty decent TODO manager.
- rgoulter 7y ago
  Its versatility, all within one file format. e.g. for anyone who hasn't glanced at the Org-Mode table of contents: https://orgmode.org/manual/index.html#SEC_Contents https://orgmode.org/manual/index.html#SEC_Contents For managing tasks: org files can be richly structured. So you can organise a task in some nested hierarchy; or with a tag; or with some key-value property. You can also make use of the way you organise notes to quickly search for tasks. Org also provides some useful ways you can view your organised tasks. Besides task management, it's kindof "2nd best at everything", but all within one file format. For GTD: Org supports a workflow where you can quickly 'capture' some information; then later organise it. Org Babel: supports running snippets of code in an org-file, outputting the results. It's more primitive than something like Jupyter, though. (But you can also re-arrange the code snippets into files, supporting a literate programming style). -- I've found this a useful tool for keeping code and notes together. Org has some support for tables/spreadsheets. I don't use this very much. But, again, useful to be able to embed (and update) within notes. You wouldn't start using org-mode to get all these benefits. You start using a small part of it. And then you notice some other feature of org you'd benefit from, and figure that part out.
sudhirkhanger 7y ago
How does Org-Mode compare to modern note taking apps like Keep? How does Org-Mode handle media files?
- b3n 7y ago
  Org mode files are just plain text, but it has syntax for linking to external files like images, and Emacs can display those images inline.
- golem14 7y ago
  If you invest some time in it, it's way more awesome. Keep hardly scales for serious use. Handling of media files is probably editor specific. If you use emacs, org mode is really turing complete as it basically is an extension of elisp. But if you use this post's web-based editor, it probably implements only a tiny subset of org-mode (haven't checked out in detail). Still great if you just want to jot down a notes in a file you normally edit in emacs but have just a web browser. I would vastly prefer a way to use emacs on my computer but sync the file to google drive so I can share files between computers. That works well on the mac, but not at all on a chromebook. Maybe with Crostini it's getting better but I don't believe so. I really wish ChromeOS would allow syncing a local directory to Google drive.
- walkingolof 7y ago
  Org-mode mode is the best way to organize information that i’ve found that also allows me the freedom to chose where I store the information. It’s also, contrary to many services like Keep, quite future proof.
- deleted 7y ago
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- crispinb 7y ago
  There is no 'modern' note taking app remotely as capable as Org-Mode. That said, there's a tradeoff to be made as to use Org-Mode effectively is a project in itself (check out a couple of youtube videos on it). In my experience it's also hard to use it without being thoroughly infected by emacs/lisp envy. Whether this is a good or bad thing is a metaphysical question.
jalopy 7y ago
Currently keyboard shortcut ^n is opening a new window; how do I get it to navigate to next header?
- DanielDe 7y ago
  Yeah, the keyboard shortcut system is a bit buggy. I haven't put much work into it since I figure when you're at a desktop you'll be using Emacs anyway. You can, however, change the keyboard shortcuts in settings. Maybe that'll help you here?
vanous 7y ago
Wow, what i timing. Just found out org-mode thanks to bumping into Orgzly [1] and proffering it more then Joplin [2] due to local directory storage (synced with syncthing [3]). As a Vim user i am now trying vim-orgmode [4] and hope to have complete self hosting synced note taking solution... i will see if org-web fit's into this somehow... [1] http://www.orgzly.com/ http://www.orgzly.com/ [2] https://joplinapp.org/ https://joplinapp.org/ [3] https://syncthing.net/ https://syncthing.net/ [4] https://github.com/jceb/vim-orgmode https://github.com/jceb/vim-orgmode
- Norfair 7y ago
  You may want to try out smos. It's org mode but without the emacs around it: smos.cs-syd.eu
- deleted 7y ago
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- piotrkubisa 7y ago
  The Orgzly+Syncthing is an awesome combination. Also, as alternative it is worth mentioning the Standard Notes [0], which tends to be have-it-all-as-extension [1][2] note editor - however, it lacks the org-mode. [0]: https://standardnotes.org/ https://standardnotes.org/ [1]: https://standardnotes.org/extensions#editors https://standardnotes.org/extensions#editors [2]: https://standardnotes.org/demo https://standardnotes.org/demo
udfalkso 7y ago
I want something like this for Vimwiki. Started building it out but haven't had the time.
vipbababd 7y ago
I want something like this for Vimwiki. Started building it out but haven't had the time.
dtaverascmu 7y ago
amazing
billconan 7y ago
I am developing a new rich editor for web. I have heard of org mode, but I have never used it. The direction I am heading for is seamless markdown, inspired by https://typora.io/ https://typora.io/ Seeing how popular this is made me feel worried that seamless markdown may not be the right direction. What do you think is the good features markdown lacks? I know markdown doesn’t have calendar and some features, but some markdown engines support add-ons.
- coldtea 7y ago
  >What do you think is the good features markdown lacks? Orgmode adds things like todos, timestamped entries, outlining, cross-references, show/hide sections etc, which markdown editors typically lack.
  - vector3-dot-no 7y ago
    org-mode for a nice WYSIWYG, I feel, is like a Saturn V rocket for de-spidering your basement. Works great; maybe a bit too powerful for the average use case.
kissgyorgy 7y ago
This is an incredible user interface at the first glance! Really creative!
onyva 7y ago
Wonderful! Would love too to see NextCloud/WebDAV support added.
randomstring 7y ago
No mention yet of the very well built iOS app beorg https://beorgapp.com/ https://beorgapp.com/ Org-mode files are synced via Dropbox, iCloud, or WebDAV. Having a Siri shortcut to just tell Siri to add something to my TODO list would be a nice feature. Glancing at the shortcuts API, there is an append to file feature. I might have to try to roll my own.
- mds 7y ago
  Beorg is awesome, I use it daily, but it's really "TODO" oriented, and not that great for editing documents. I've often wished there was an iOS text editor that understood org format, even just basic markdown style formatting. I'm going to give org-web a go, I think it could be a good compliment to beorg.
  - pault 7y ago
    There's inkdrop. The iOS app is pretty limited but it syncs with the desktop app and has an electron (I know, I know) app for Mac, Windows, and Linux. It's extendable with plugins. I've been using it for a couple of months and I love it.
  - ycombinete 7y ago
    Yes. To be honest this is all I want.
- confounded 7y ago
  I’m a big fan and current user, though I’d really like to use something FOSS. And, while iOS payments are a good prompt to support the author (I’m trying to get better at donating to Free Software developers), the in-app upsells for features are pretty annoying. That said, it’s one of the most used apps on my phone.
- DanielDe 7y ago
  I think beorg is fantastic and I poked around with it for a while before building org-web. Ultimately I decided to build org-web anyway because I wanted something a bit closer to the metal, in a way. My impression of Beorg was that its bit higher level, whereas org-web provides some first class support for org features while still letting you edit the raw text if you'd like to. To be clear, I think both styles have their advantages. org-web's style isn't better, its better for me.
Timothycquinn 7y ago
I am trying the interface after first login via google drive and cannot find out how to start a new document. I am not presently an orgmode user and use EccoPro on Linux. Is there a way to create a new document in the mobile interface?
- DanielDe 7y ago
  Ah, no there is not. Haven't gotten around to that yet. My primary use case here was editing existing files.
kozikow 7y ago
Anyone did a comparison with orgzly+syncthing? I currently use orgzly and my only problem is that sometimes files get out of sync - I do not always have access to wifi.
- vanous 7y ago
  As long as you only sync org-mode text files, you could install synsthing-fork and enable custom rule to sync the orgzly directory even on mobile data.
funkaster 7y ago
this is really good! I'm extremely happy to see more and more people drawn to orgmode. I'm currently working on a side project that involves blogging + agenda exporting and orgmode, still too rough to share, but hopefully soon. What I might share before is the org-mode parser and htmlfier that I wrote in clojure to support my project. Anyway, orgmode is a real time and life saver. I use it daily to manage my tasks and keep notes on meetings/1:1s. I'll definitively play with this during the weekend!
- preek 7y ago
  When you’re ready to share, would you kindly ping me? As a power org user and Clojure programmer I am intrigued by your description^^ My mail is in my user description.
jeena 7y ago
Even if I am as a Emacs and org-mode user in the ballpark for people who should be interested in it, and I especially like that it seems to be mobile-first, I'm not inclined to test it. And that is for the simple reason that I don't want to send my private data to Google or Dropbox. It would be nice to see Syncthing or Nextcloud sync first, and then additionally Dropbox and Google Drive as a cherry on top.
guylyons 7y ago
have to say, it was awesome to see org-mode and React used in the same sentence. great work.
dnr 7y ago
Since other people are throwing out alternatives, here's what I use: https://dynalist.io/ https://dynalist.io/ I'm not affiliated, just a happy paying customer. I organize a pretty good chunk of my life in it.
- j-conn 7y ago
  I’m planning to give this a try once notes aren’t stored on dynalist servers, or are at least end to end encrypted
  - dnr 7y ago
    Fair enough. It's a small company and their ops seem competent, but yeah, I wouldn't trust confidential or sensitive information to it.
rcdwealth 7y ago
That is not "Org-mode" as "mode" refers to editing mode within GNU Emacs software https://www.gnu.org/s/emacs https://www.gnu.org/s/emacs -- so you either use the term wrongly intentionally to gain attention or unintentionally as you never understood the concept of integrated environment such as Emacs. Instead you could call it Org editing or Org files or Org planning. Not a "mode". Your web design sucks and it is not usable. This is waste of time.
rcdwealth 7y ago
This would make sense ONLY then, when you would implement editing of Org files on Internet that connects to Emacs server. As stand alone version this is just waste of time.

438 points by moioci 7y ago

fock 7y ago

looks nice! though the focus on proprietary API-based backends (?!) is a bit puzzling? how about commiting to a git repo on the web server. Running within nextcloud?

imglorp 7y ago
Encrypt the file and throw on IPFS?
yourfate 7y ago
This is the problem I also have with this. Give it a git backend, and I might use it. Even an s3 backend would be ok.
iamnothere 7y ago
More backends have been considered: https://github.com/DanielDe/org-web/issues/5 https://github.com/DanielDe/org-web/issues/5 Would be nice to see Syncthing support.
DanielDe 7y ago
I think those are great ideas, I just haven’t gotten around to them yet. This was largely a scratch-your-own-itch kind of project for me, and I sync my org file with Dropbox, so that was my priority.

diehunde 7y ago

what % of the org-mode API is currently implemented?

DanielDe 7y ago
Author here - I’m not sure % wise, but quite a few features now have first-class support. Those that don’t simply fall back to plain text, which you can always resort to editing directly in org-web. You can see a list of the implemented features (and try them yourself) in the sample file here: https://org-web.org/ https://org-web.org/
- mruts 7y ago
  Is there support for in line images and LaTeX? I haven’t tried org-web but this looks seriously awesome! Good work!
  - DanielDe 7y ago
    Not currently, no. Thanks so much!

_pmf_ 7y ago

Looks nice! Will there be either OneDrive or Standard Notes support at one point? EDIT: nevermind, it's open source, so I'll look into it; maybe as an editor for Standard Notes?

secure 7y ago

This looks cool! But could you (if you are the author?) please restrict the Google Drive permissions from “See, edit, create and delete all of your Google Drive files” to only affect a sub directory of my drive please? That’s best practice for isolation. Thanks!

moioci 7y ago
not the author, just a non-techy person who wants to try org mode without the complexity of emacs.
- gryffin 7y ago
  A non-techy person who has heard of emacs!
  - gregknicholson 7y ago
    "Non-techy" is Impostor Syndrome for "somewhat techy".
  - fipar 7y ago
    I think org-mode has contributed a lot to making emacs more popular (or less obscure, depending on how you see it? :) ) See this for example: https://github.com/incandescentman/Emacs-Settings https://github.com/incandescentman/Emacs-Settings
- na85 7y ago
  Just as a bit of encouragement, I used emacs for like 4 years knowing only 5 commands (open file, change buffers, save file, kill buffer, close emacs). It's not that bad if you wade into it slowly.
DanielDe 7y ago
Yep, I should’ve done that in the first place, and it’s on my todo list, though I haven’t put many hours into org-web lately. In the meantime, you can always host the project yourself if that makes you feel a bit more comfortable about linking to GDrive (though this doesn’t solve every potential privacy issue, of course)

grecht 7y ago

Great stuff! I was looking for something like this just a couple of days ago.

chrisweekly 7y ago

Awesome! Thanks for making this, and for sharing here, and for open-sourcing it! :)

DanielDe 7y ago

Hey all, I’m the author of org-web. It was pretty cool to wake up this morning and see this on the front page (thanks moioci!). If you’re interested in taking org-web for a spin you can try it here: https://org-web.org/ https://org-web.org/ There’s a sample file you can play around with there if you’re not ready to link to a sync backend yet. Happy to answer any questions!

throwanem 7y ago
This is awesome! FYI, it looks like the add/delete row/column buttons have their targets reversed? The button whose icon suggests "add row" adds a column, etc.
- DanielDe 7y ago
  Ah that’s just a confusing icon choice on my part. I think a more custom icon could solve this problem nicely, but I did my best to stick with what Font Awesome had available. Certainly worth improving, though - thanks for the feedback!
earth_walker 7y ago
This is so great, thank you Daniel. This changes everything. Next up, org-web-agenda? Edit: Already a feature. I love it.
- DanielDe 7y ago
  :)
serpentines 7y ago
I'm unable to login through the Google Drive link on mobile, seems the image loads butbit doesn't click through (i.e. clicking on the image does nothing). Tried this in Firefox (with and without uMatrix and/or UBO) and Firefox Klar and Google Chrome (with JavaScript enabled).
- DanielDe 7y ago

elliottcarlson 7y ago

"Org-mode is a document editing, formatting, and organizing mode, designed for notes, planning, and authoring within the free software text editor Emacs." In case anyone else wasn't sure what this was, and isn't an Emacs user.

jimktrains2 7y ago
You can use orgmode in other editors. I use vim, for instance. (Yes, the "official" module is only for emacs, but orgmode is a format and other editors have plugins for it as well.)
- elliottcarlson 7y ago
  Good to know -- my vim setup has been pretty static for a decade now, I should probably take a peek to see what I can change every once in a while.
- michaelmrose 7y ago
  The Vim addon isn't unofficial its a different program inspired by org mode that implements some of the features. The difference between having multiple implementations of a standard and multiple similar tools is that you really can't access the same data from multiple programs or share data with users using a different app.
  - pizza 7y ago
    People who want to try out org-mode but are familiar with vim shortcuts may want to check out spacemacs, it's an emacs distribution built to be useful for vim users. That way you can try out the real org-mode.
    - michaelmrose 7y ago
      I see a lot of spacemacs users that seem rather confused on emacs basics. Makes me think you would be better of learning emacs, adding evil to the mix. Then using a starter kit if desired.

jalopy 7y ago

Wow this is perfect. I'm using org mode more and more for everything I do and my only concern was mobile access. Thanks so much for working on this!

michaelmrose 7y ago
Have you tried orgzly?

jjnoakes 7y ago

Does this work offline at all? That would be a killer feature.

vinceguidry 7y ago
In case this isn't a joke, what's keeping you from just using emacs or an org-mode plugin for your text editor?
- solarkraft 7y ago
  I don't like the UX, especially in a touch environment.
- jjnoakes 7y ago
  Mobile support.

solarkraft 7y ago

This is pretty impressive. I'm not a fan of the type face and some of the design decisions, but those are rather minor points. With Git it'll be amazing.

dilap 7y ago

i'm a heavy emacs user but ive never been able to really grok org mode. what makes it special?

na85 7y ago
It's just a really solid markup for large plaintext documents with automa(g/t)ic formatting and the ability to embed: -Arbitrary code which can be executed and which can update/operate on the contents of the document -calendars -hyperlinks -images and other media -tables which can also act as spreadsheets a la Excel It also lets you export to just about any format including HTML and pdf via TeX, and it has broad integration across emacs so you can easily invoke portions of org-mode from your other buffers/modes. In other words it's a really flexible medium for representing and working just about anything in a plain text file. I use it as a bug tracker for personal projects, I use it for self-documenting code ("literate programming", as they say), and I use it for writing prose that I intend to export to PDF such as reports and other things because frankly org is a much saner way to write latex/xetex/whatever.
- BeetleB 7y ago
  Beyond being "just" a markup, it's also a pretty decent TODO manager.
rgoulter 7y ago
Its versatility, all within one file format. e.g. for anyone who hasn't glanced at the Org-Mode table of contents: https://orgmode.org/manual/index.html#SEC_Contents https://orgmode.org/manual/index.html#SEC_Contents For managing tasks: org files can be richly structured. So you can organise a task in some nested hierarchy; or with a tag; or with some key-value property. You can also make use of the way you organise notes to quickly search for tasks. Org also provides some useful ways you can view your organised tasks. Besides task management, it's kindof "2nd best at everything", but all within one file format. For GTD: Org supports a workflow where you can quickly 'capture' some information; then later organise it. Org Babel: supports running snippets of code in an org-file, outputting the results. It's more primitive than something like Jupyter, though. (But you can also re-arrange the code snippets into files, supporting a literate programming style). -- I've found this a useful tool for keeping code and notes together. Org has some support for tables/spreadsheets. I don't use this very much. But, again, useful to be able to embed (and update) within notes. You wouldn't start using org-mode to get all these benefits. You start using a small part of it. And then you notice some other feature of org you'd benefit from, and figure that part out.

sudhirkhanger 7y ago

How does Org-Mode compare to modern note taking apps like Keep? How does Org-Mode handle media files?

b3n 7y ago
Org mode files are just plain text, but it has syntax for linking to external files like images, and Emacs can display those images inline.
golem14 7y ago
If you invest some time in it, it's way more awesome. Keep hardly scales for serious use. Handling of media files is probably editor specific. If you use emacs, org mode is really turing complete as it basically is an extension of elisp. But if you use this post's web-based editor, it probably implements only a tiny subset of org-mode (haven't checked out in detail). Still great if you just want to jot down a notes in a file you normally edit in emacs but have just a web browser. I would vastly prefer a way to use emacs on my computer but sync the file to google drive so I can share files between computers. That works well on the mac, but not at all on a chromebook. Maybe with Crostini it's getting better but I don't believe so. I really wish ChromeOS would allow syncing a local directory to Google drive.
walkingolof 7y ago
Org-mode mode is the best way to organize information that i’ve found that also allows me the freedom to chose where I store the information. It’s also, contrary to many services like Keep, quite future proof.
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crispinb 7y ago
There is no 'modern' note taking app remotely as capable as Org-Mode. That said, there's a tradeoff to be made as to use Org-Mode effectively is a project in itself (check out a couple of youtube videos on it). In my experience it's also hard to use it without being thoroughly infected by emacs/lisp envy. Whether this is a good or bad thing is a metaphysical question.

jalopy 7y ago

Currently keyboard shortcut ^n is opening a new window; how do I get it to navigate to next header?

DanielDe 7y ago
Yeah, the keyboard shortcut system is a bit buggy. I haven't put much work into it since I figure when you're at a desktop you'll be using Emacs anyway. You can, however, change the keyboard shortcuts in settings. Maybe that'll help you here?

vanous 7y ago

Wow, what i timing. Just found out org-mode thanks to bumping into Orgzly [1] and proffering it more then Joplin [2] due to local directory storage (synced with syncthing [3]). As a Vim user i am now trying vim-orgmode [4] and hope to have complete self hosting synced note taking solution... i will see if org-web fit's into this somehow... [1] http://www.orgzly.com/ http://www.orgzly.com/ [2] https://joplinapp.org/ https://joplinapp.org/ [3] https://syncthing.net/ https://syncthing.net/ [4] https://github.com/jceb/vim-orgmode https://github.com/jceb/vim-orgmode

Norfair 7y ago
You may want to try out smos. It's org mode but without the emacs around it: smos.cs-syd.eu
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piotrkubisa 7y ago
The Orgzly+Syncthing is an awesome combination. Also, as alternative it is worth mentioning the Standard Notes [0], which tends to be have-it-all-as-extension [1][2] note editor - however, it lacks the org-mode. [0]: https://standardnotes.org/ https://standardnotes.org/ [1]: https://standardnotes.org/extensions#editors https://standardnotes.org/extensions#editors [2]: https://standardnotes.org/demo https://standardnotes.org/demo

udfalkso 7y ago

I want something like this for Vimwiki. Started building it out but haven't had the time.

vipbababd 7y ago

I want something like this for Vimwiki. Started building it out but haven't had the time.

dtaverascmu 7y ago

amazing

billconan 7y ago

I am developing a new rich editor for web. I have heard of org mode, but I have never used it. The direction I am heading for is seamless markdown, inspired by https://typora.io/ https://typora.io/ Seeing how popular this is made me feel worried that seamless markdown may not be the right direction. What do you think is the good features markdown lacks? I know markdown doesn’t have calendar and some features, but some markdown engines support add-ons.

coldtea 7y ago
>What do you think is the good features markdown lacks? Orgmode adds things like todos, timestamped entries, outlining, cross-references, show/hide sections etc, which markdown editors typically lack.
- vector3-dot-no 7y ago
  org-mode for a nice WYSIWYG, I feel, is like a Saturn V rocket for de-spidering your basement. Works great; maybe a bit too powerful for the average use case.

kissgyorgy 7y ago

This is an incredible user interface at the first glance! Really creative!

onyva 7y ago

Wonderful! Would love too to see NextCloud/WebDAV support added.

randomstring 7y ago

No mention yet of the very well built iOS app beorg https://beorgapp.com/ https://beorgapp.com/ Org-mode files are synced via Dropbox, iCloud, or WebDAV. Having a Siri shortcut to just tell Siri to add something to my TODO list would be a nice feature. Glancing at the shortcuts API, there is an append to file feature. I might have to try to roll my own.

mds 7y ago
Beorg is awesome, I use it daily, but it's really "TODO" oriented, and not that great for editing documents. I've often wished there was an iOS text editor that understood org format, even just basic markdown style formatting. I'm going to give org-web a go, I think it could be a good compliment to beorg.
- pault 7y ago
  There's inkdrop. The iOS app is pretty limited but it syncs with the desktop app and has an electron (I know, I know) app for Mac, Windows, and Linux. It's extendable with plugins. I've been using it for a couple of months and I love it.
- ycombinete 7y ago
  Yes. To be honest this is all I want.
confounded 7y ago
I’m a big fan and current user, though I’d really like to use something FOSS. And, while iOS payments are a good prompt to support the author (I’m trying to get better at donating to Free Software developers), the in-app upsells for features are pretty annoying. That said, it’s one of the most used apps on my phone.
DanielDe 7y ago
I think beorg is fantastic and I poked around with it for a while before building org-web. Ultimately I decided to build org-web anyway because I wanted something a bit closer to the metal, in a way. My impression of Beorg was that its bit higher level, whereas org-web provides some first class support for org features while still letting you edit the raw text if you'd like to. To be clear, I think both styles have their advantages. org-web's style isn't better, its better for me.

Timothycquinn 7y ago

I am trying the interface after first login via google drive and cannot find out how to start a new document. I am not presently an orgmode user and use EccoPro on Linux. Is there a way to create a new document in the mobile interface?

DanielDe 7y ago
Ah, no there is not. Haven't gotten around to that yet. My primary use case here was editing existing files.

kozikow 7y ago

Anyone did a comparison with orgzly+syncthing? I currently use orgzly and my only problem is that sometimes files get out of sync - I do not always have access to wifi.

vanous 7y ago
As long as you only sync org-mode text files, you could install synsthing-fork and enable custom rule to sync the orgzly directory even on mobile data.

funkaster 7y ago

this is really good! I'm extremely happy to see more and more people drawn to orgmode. I'm currently working on a side project that involves blogging + agenda exporting and orgmode, still too rough to share, but hopefully soon. What I might share before is the org-mode parser and htmlfier that I wrote in clojure to support my project. Anyway, orgmode is a real time and life saver. I use it daily to manage my tasks and keep notes on meetings/1:1s. I'll definitively play with this during the weekend!

preek 7y ago
When you’re ready to share, would you kindly ping me? As a power org user and Clojure programmer I am intrigued by your description^^ My mail is in my user description.

jeena 7y ago

Even if I am as a Emacs and org-mode user in the ballpark for people who should be interested in it, and I especially like that it seems to be mobile-first, I'm not inclined to test it. And that is for the simple reason that I don't want to send my private data to Google or Dropbox. It would be nice to see Syncthing or Nextcloud sync first, and then additionally Dropbox and Google Drive as a cherry on top.

guylyons 7y ago

have to say, it was awesome to see org-mode and React used in the same sentence. great work.

dnr 7y ago

Since other people are throwing out alternatives, here's what I use: https://dynalist.io/ https://dynalist.io/ I'm not affiliated, just a happy paying customer. I organize a pretty good chunk of my life in it.

j-conn 7y ago
I’m planning to give this a try once notes aren’t stored on dynalist servers, or are at least end to end encrypted
- dnr 7y ago
  Fair enough. It's a small company and their ops seem competent, but yeah, I wouldn't trust confidential or sensitive information to it.

rcdwealth 7y ago

That is not "Org-mode" as "mode" refers to editing mode within GNU Emacs software https://www.gnu.org/s/emacs https://www.gnu.org/s/emacs -- so you either use the term wrongly intentionally to gain attention or unintentionally as you never understood the concept of integrated environment such as Emacs. Instead you could call it Org editing or Org files or Org planning. Not a "mode". Your web design sucks and it is not usable. This is waste of time.

rcdwealth 7y ago

This would make sense ONLY then, when you would implement editing of Org files on Internet that connects to Emacs server. As stand alone version this is just waste of time.