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I think flat eartherism is stupid but I really don’t want YouTube start censoring stuff. That’s a dangerous path.

by Ididntdothis 7y ago

ss2003 7y ago
They already effectively censor via algorithm. They are a monopoly that should be broken up.
- MBCook 7y ago
  How, exactly, would you ‘break up’ YouTube? How do you divide the whole into reasonable parts?
  - pwinnski 7y ago
    You start by separating it from Google, so that it needs to compete with other video-sharing sites on a more-level playing field.
    - MBCook 7y ago
      YouTube is the 900lb gorilla. How would breaking apart from Google (which is not what was suggested) help other video sites? YouRube is FAR past critical mass. It IS online video. And I can’t think of anything you could do short of shutting the site down that would fix that and give competitors a level playing field.
      - pwinnski 7y ago
        A big chunk of YouTube's dominance comes from Google's other lines of business including online search and online ads. See the other post today from a former competitor[0] for an example. The reasoning is that stripping YouTube of Alphabet's deep pockets from advertising would give competitors a chance to monetize as well as YouTube, without fearing that Google will choke off their air supply to preserve YouTube's dominance. It might not be enough, but it would be a start. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20472351 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20472351
tombert 7y ago
Has Youtube actually started censoring anything but the most extreme voices? They still allow race-baiting idiots like Stefan Molyneux on their platform, so I doubt they have some "evil liberal agenda". They took off Alex Jones, not for ideological reasons, but because he was blatantly lying about people being pedophiles; this was after years of accusing school shooting victims of being liars . If you can't see how that's a violation of a terms of service, I really don't know what it would take to convince you.

I think flat eartherism is stupid but I really don’t want YouTube start censoring stuff. That’s a dangerous path.

ss2003 7y ago

They already effectively censor via algorithm. They are a monopoly that should be broken up.

MBCook 7y ago
How, exactly, would you ‘break up’ YouTube? How do you divide the whole into reasonable parts?
- pwinnski 7y ago
  You start by separating it from Google, so that it needs to compete with other video-sharing sites on a more-level playing field.
  - MBCook 7y ago
    YouTube is the 900lb gorilla. How would breaking apart from Google (which is not what was suggested) help other video sites? YouRube is FAR past critical mass. It IS online video. And I can’t think of anything you could do short of shutting the site down that would fix that and give competitors a level playing field.
    - pwinnski 7y ago
      A big chunk of YouTube's dominance comes from Google's other lines of business including online search and online ads. See the other post today from a former competitor[0] for an example. The reasoning is that stripping YouTube of Alphabet's deep pockets from advertising would give competitors a chance to monetize as well as YouTube, without fearing that Google will choke off their air supply to preserve YouTube's dominance. It might not be enough, but it would be a start. [0] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20472351 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20472351

tombert 7y ago

Has Youtube actually started censoring anything but the most extreme voices? They still allow race-baiting idiots like Stefan Molyneux on their platform, so I doubt they have some "evil liberal agenda". They took off Alex Jones, not for ideological reasons, but because he was blatantly lying about people being pedophiles; this was after years of accusing school shooting victims of being liars . If you can't see how that's a violation of a terms of service, I really don't know what it would take to convince you.