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> but showing a normal "mixed-race gay couple" For an international audience this is very obvious in your face propaganda. It's hard to miss it or ignore it, w

> but showing a normal "mixed-race gay couple" For an international audience this is very obvious in your face propaganda. It's hard to miss it or ignore it, when you only see this in US shows and nowhere else.

Dylan16807 7y ago
When the demographics in a production reflect the demographics of the place it's made, that's not propaganda.
- casefields 7y ago
  Do the math at how many shows have LGBT characters there are, then go look at how many there are in the US. The numbers are hilariously overrepresented. Groups like native Americans on the other hand are sorely underrepresented.
  - cannonedhamster 7y ago
    How many conservative white old people are cutting the cord versus the younger tech savvy people? I think that's something that might need to be looked at as well, which might explain the discrepancy. I mean sure there are conservative young people, but they probably aren't watching those shows and are probably watching either other things on Netflix or consuming content elsewhere like Philo with has a lot of "History" Channel conservative bent shows and things like LivePD. The biggest networks in the US are all conservative leaning. I think people are just not used to seeing new content outside the bubble they grew up with. On a sad note, I really miss the days when History Channel had solid history shows instead of the weird mostly garbage factually reality shows they have now.
- nkkollaw 7y ago
  Right, but they don't. You don't have 25% single mothers, 25% blacks, 50% gay Asian couple.
d1zzy 7y ago
Every piece of art contains some sort of message. What distinguishes this type of message from other messages, what makes this propaganda and why other messages aren't? Is it that any message which shows something which you don't consider "representative" would qualify as propaganda?
- zzzcpan 7y ago
  Propaganda in general is an attempt to influence how you should judge something or feel about something instead of letting you make your own judgements and feelings. It's not that complicated, movies and tv shows always have lots of propaganda in them, some of it is accidental, cultural, but mostly it's a top down effort.
Grue3 7y ago
Not an American here. Propaganda of what exactly?

Dylan16807 7y ago

When the demographics in a production reflect the demographics of the place it's made, that's not propaganda.

casefields 7y ago
Do the math at how many shows have LGBT characters there are, then go look at how many there are in the US. The numbers are hilariously overrepresented. Groups like native Americans on the other hand are sorely underrepresented.
- cannonedhamster 7y ago
  How many conservative white old people are cutting the cord versus the younger tech savvy people? I think that's something that might need to be looked at as well, which might explain the discrepancy. I mean sure there are conservative young people, but they probably aren't watching those shows and are probably watching either other things on Netflix or consuming content elsewhere like Philo with has a lot of "History" Channel conservative bent shows and things like LivePD. The biggest networks in the US are all conservative leaning. I think people are just not used to seeing new content outside the bubble they grew up with. On a sad note, I really miss the days when History Channel had solid history shows instead of the weird mostly garbage factually reality shows they have now.
nkkollaw 7y ago
Right, but they don't. You don't have 25% single mothers, 25% blacks, 50% gay Asian couple.

d1zzy 7y ago

Every piece of art contains some sort of message. What distinguishes this type of message from other messages, what makes this propaganda and why other messages aren't? Is it that any message which shows something which you don't consider "representative" would qualify as propaganda?

zzzcpan 7y ago
Propaganda in general is an attempt to influence how you should judge something or feel about something instead of letting you make your own judgements and feelings. It's not that complicated, movies and tv shows always have lots of propaganda in them, some of it is accidental, cultural, but mostly it's a top down effort.

Grue3 7y ago

Not an American here. Propaganda of what exactly?