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I don't see the importance in making a distinction. I can think of a very limited number of reasons a company would _specifically_ want to hire female devs? Why

I don't see the importance in making a distinction. I can think of a very limited number of reasons a company would _specifically_ want to hire female devs? Why not hire the person best-suited regardless of gender? ...maybe I'm missing the point.

Riphyak 7y ago
Well, the idea is pretty similar to that behind "Women in Tech". Women have long been discriminated in the workplace - and they still are (take the wage gap). A pro-active effort must be made to bring the balance. Does this make sense?
- KhalPanda 7y ago
  It does make sense. How does a curated list of women in tech available for hire help solve that? Won't both companies that pay and treat women fairly in line with men already be hiring them... and women already be choosing to work for them? I think a gender-specific list of people available for hire isn't conducive to the actual goal. We need a way to change the culture of bigoted companies. I agree a pro-active effort makes sense... just the question is: By doing what? (Not trying to be difficult).
  - Riphyak 7y ago
    Yes, but how about the remote developers?
    - KhalPanda 7y ago
      I see the sense in curated lists of remote developers, if that's what you're asking? - Some companies are 100% remote - Companies in unfavourable locations may want to expand the talent pool they can hire from - Timezone coverage (on-call, support, etc) - etc
- toomuchtodo 7y ago
  I would not suggest advocating for "positive" sex discrimination in hiring to "bring the balance". It's still discriminatory and illegal, and doing it overtly opens you up to legal action and reporting to the US Dept of Labor.
  - vova_sanin 7y ago
    Why not celebrate women in tech by highlighting their work? It's not like anyone has to hire anyone based on criteria different than qualification
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    - toomuchtodo 7y ago
      Why celebrate anyone's specific gender, race, or ethnicity in tech instead of solely their skills and accomplishments?
      - vova_sanin 7y ago
        There's an issue of accessibility in the tech industry caused by tradition that still is influencing people's life decisions. Changing outdated stereotypes is worth a celebration (skills are getting quite enough well-deserved attention)
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- oiasdjfoiasd 7y ago
  What wage gap?
- lm28469 7y ago
  > take the wage gap There are many other issues but the wage gap is the least of them. When you control for all variables it's far less impressive than the "women get paid 70ct when men get $1". The wages are the same (legally enforced in any first world country), what they earn is less _on average_ based on many factors like career choices, pregnancy, &c. I'd be more concerned about harassment, patronisation, &c which are much harder to tackle and much less visible.

Riphyak 7y ago

Well, the idea is pretty similar to that behind "Women in Tech". Women have long been discriminated in the workplace - and they still are (take the wage gap). A pro-active effort must be made to bring the balance. Does this make sense?

KhalPanda 7y ago
It does make sense. How does a curated list of women in tech available for hire help solve that? Won't both companies that pay and treat women fairly in line with men already be hiring them... and women already be choosing to work for them? I think a gender-specific list of people available for hire isn't conducive to the actual goal. We need a way to change the culture of bigoted companies. I agree a pro-active effort makes sense... just the question is: By doing what? (Not trying to be difficult).
- Riphyak 7y ago
  Yes, but how about the remote developers?
  - KhalPanda 7y ago
    I see the sense in curated lists of remote developers, if that's what you're asking? - Some companies are 100% remote - Companies in unfavourable locations may want to expand the talent pool they can hire from - Timezone coverage (on-call, support, etc) - etc
toomuchtodo 7y ago
I would not suggest advocating for "positive" sex discrimination in hiring to "bring the balance". It's still discriminatory and illegal, and doing it overtly opens you up to legal action and reporting to the US Dept of Labor.
- vova_sanin 7y ago
  Why not celebrate women in tech by highlighting their work? It's not like anyone has to hire anyone based on criteria different than qualification
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  - toomuchtodo 7y ago
    Why celebrate anyone's specific gender, race, or ethnicity in tech instead of solely their skills and accomplishments?
    - vova_sanin 7y ago
      There's an issue of accessibility in the tech industry caused by tradition that still is influencing people's life decisions. Changing outdated stereotypes is worth a celebration (skills are getting quite enough well-deserved attention)
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oiasdjfoiasd 7y ago
What wage gap?
lm28469 7y ago
> take the wage gap There are many other issues but the wage gap is the least of them. When you control for all variables it's far less impressive than the "women get paid 70ct when men get $1". The wages are the same (legally enforced in any first world country), what they earn is less _on average_ based on many factors like career choices, pregnancy, &c. I'd be more concerned about harassment, patronisation, &c which are much harder to tackle and much less visible.