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I would argue that ‘people’ break the social contract. These people know where they are, what time it is, and mostly what’s expected of their surroundings. I t
by voidwtf 7y ago
I would argue that ‘people’ break the social contract.
These people know where they are, what time it is, and mostly what’s expected of their surroundings. I think they just don’t care. I’m guessing it’s similar to anonymity on the Internet, where people behave differently because they don’t expect to have to face those they harm.
- ianopolous 7y agoThere are no repeated interactions: https://ncase.me/trust https://ncase.me/trust
- dnh44 7y agoI just wanted to leave a comment saying that I thought this link is worth clicking. I suspect people who regularly “cheat” in business for example are acutely aware of the necessity of finding a constant source new interactions. I also suspect that the stereotype of people from small towns being more naive than people from cities is also related to this. It all seems kind of obvious to me as I write this post but I don’t think I’ve actually consciously directly thought about things on those terms until just now.
- snarf21 7y agoI would disagree slightly. They treat it like any other hotel. There are always some overtly noisy people at a hotel. There are always people who will leave crap in the breakfast areas because "they are paying" and it is someone else's job. The difference is that someone's apartment isn't employing the same people a hotel is. And like the thread mentions, they are breaking a social contract of the building even if they aren't breaking a legal rule.
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- rhacker 7y ago"I think they just don't care" Yep, if you ever lived in a vacation destination you know.
- skgoa 7y agoSome people even seem to see their 2 weeks vacation abroad as their annual excuse to act out power fantasies.
- TeMPOraL 7y agoYes, it's people who break social contract. The sin of AirBnB isn't that they create those people where they didn't exist before. The sin of AirBnB is that they organize those people on a massive scale and put them in a position where breaking the social contract is the default behavior. Tourists are noisy and careless. That's to some extent forgivable - tourism is a leisure activity. Hotels and other legit tourism-oriented businesses are prepared for it and mostly take care of it (and are appropriately regulated to make sure they do). But take the same tourists doing the same things and sprinkle them around neighborhoods where regular people live and raise families - in that context, their behavior becomes disturbing and destructive to the quality of those neighborhoods. It's breaking social contract. The sin of AirBnB is that they know they're making the world a worse place, and they don't care. They just keep doing it.
- sitkack 7y agoA lot of startup culture is about breaking the social contract for profit. "Value" is locked up in norms, but you can show up to a place, throw those norms away and make lots of money. Cutting down apple orchards to put in tract housing. Making employees contractors and gaming the system so they compete rather than cooperate. This pattern causes others to seek out norms that can bent for profit, so it has spread like a meme. In Germany, one can openly drink any sort of alcohol one wants. But the social norms as such that jackassery by those consuming alcohol is greatly reduced. The people there are under a stronger social contract.
- TeMPOraL 7y agoYup. That's why for the last few years I've been so outspoken about Uber and (less often) AirBnB - I view those companies not as just poisoning the spaces they work in, but as a general threat to the fundamental underpinnings of societies worldwide. This may sound extreme, but as you correctly pointed out - others see how successful those companies are, how much media praise they're getting, and try to copy them.