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unfortunately people list units where it's not allowed as well. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/marketplace-airbnb-covert-listings-banned-units-1.5066673 http

unfortunately people list units where it's not allowed as well. https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/marketplace-airbnb-covert-listings-banned-units-1.5066673 https://www.cbc.ca/news/business/marketplace-airbnb-covert-l...

tapland 7y ago
A lot of people on my floor did that when I lived in a 6000 sek/month 1 room flat outside Stockholm that required me to be an active student and still required 5 years of being in the queue for apartments which you can't sign up for until age 18. It was impossible to study most days because of kids to illicit renters running around screaming and biking in the corridors.
- HelloNurse 7y ago
  Couldn't you ring the bell of suspect apartments, verify the presence of illicit renters and call the police? Aren't there fines or worse for the owner?
  - chrisseaton 7y ago
    > and call the police But it's just a civil agreement between property owners, isn't it? Is breaking that civil agreement a criminal matter that needs police attention?
    - inlined 7y ago
      At least in the US civil and criminal law are two totally different things.
      - chrisseaton 7y ago
        Right, as in most places, so why would you involve the police in a civil matter?
        learc83 7y ago
        In the US it's usually a city or county ordinance we're talking about, which can be criminal. Some cities have some kind of code enforcement officers to handle those cases, but a lot of the time this is handled by the police.
    - alkonaut 7y ago
      Yes, the landlord should be contacted because of a breach of contract. Not the police
  - chirau 7y ago
    > verify the.... Lost you there, how exactly? I live in one of these buildings. They can just tell you they are relatives or housesitters, then what?
    - CaptainMarvel 7y ago
      I’m sure a significant number of people would just say they booked on AirBnB straight up. Especially if it’s multiple apartments, and there are many, many different people coming and going. You can also find the listing on AirBnB itself. This should be sufficient evidence to do whatever you need to.
      - tapland 7y ago
        You can't use the police to enforce policies set by the apartment company. It needs to not only be breaking the rules but also laws (which is hard to do disturbance-wise during daytime)
      - chirau 7y ago
        I think you are working on assumptions. You shouldn't. If a person in a building that is not Airbnb-able, trust me, they will tell their tenants to say these things. I have experienced it myself in several Airbnbs i have stayed in.
  - tapland 7y ago
    No go for the police. Owner has disturbance staff but evicting people takes ages and they seemed to not work very hard on that, still getting that rent income so it's no difference to them.
    - HelloNurse 7y ago
      These people are going to be gone before any eviction procedure, but the owner can be punished for each instance of subletting.
  - krageon 7y ago
    What's the police going to do? How would you "verify the presence of illicit renters"?
- Haga 7y ago
  You where we'll prepared for a open floor Office I reckon?

tapland 7y ago

A lot of people on my floor did that when I lived in a 6000 sek/month 1 room flat outside Stockholm that required me to be an active student and still required 5 years of being in the queue for apartments which you can't sign up for until age 18. It was impossible to study most days because of kids to illicit renters running around screaming and biking in the corridors.

HelloNurse 7y ago
Couldn't you ring the bell of suspect apartments, verify the presence of illicit renters and call the police? Aren't there fines or worse for the owner?
- chrisseaton 7y ago
  > and call the police But it's just a civil agreement between property owners, isn't it? Is breaking that civil agreement a criminal matter that needs police attention?
  - inlined 7y ago
    At least in the US civil and criminal law are two totally different things.
    - chrisseaton 7y ago
      Right, as in most places, so why would you involve the police in a civil matter?
      - learc83 7y ago
        In the US it's usually a city or county ordinance we're talking about, which can be criminal. Some cities have some kind of code enforcement officers to handle those cases, but a lot of the time this is handled by the police.
  - alkonaut 7y ago
    Yes, the landlord should be contacted because of a breach of contract. Not the police
- chirau 7y ago
  > verify the.... Lost you there, how exactly? I live in one of these buildings. They can just tell you they are relatives or housesitters, then what?
  - CaptainMarvel 7y ago
    I’m sure a significant number of people would just say they booked on AirBnB straight up. Especially if it’s multiple apartments, and there are many, many different people coming and going. You can also find the listing on AirBnB itself. This should be sufficient evidence to do whatever you need to.
    - tapland 7y ago
      You can't use the police to enforce policies set by the apartment company. It needs to not only be breaking the rules but also laws (which is hard to do disturbance-wise during daytime)
    - chirau 7y ago
      I think you are working on assumptions. You shouldn't. If a person in a building that is not Airbnb-able, trust me, they will tell their tenants to say these things. I have experienced it myself in several Airbnbs i have stayed in.
- tapland 7y ago
  No go for the police. Owner has disturbance staff but evicting people takes ages and they seemed to not work very hard on that, still getting that rent income so it's no difference to them.
  - HelloNurse 7y ago
    These people are going to be gone before any eviction procedure, but the owner can be punished for each instance of subletting.
- krageon 7y ago
  What's the police going to do? How would you "verify the presence of illicit renters"?
Haga 7y ago
You where we'll prepared for a open floor Office I reckon?