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There are many who know and understand that decision, and still move back, so they must (at least some) be factoring things like this into the decision to move

There are many who know and understand that decision, and still move back, so they must (at least some) be factoring things like this into the decision to move back. Perhaps they feel that they can make a difference or perhaps some other reason, but the numbers in the article show that they are going back.

asdfman123 7y ago
It's probably because there is a healthy tech industry in China and it's home. If could take classes in China and possibly get a job making 50% more there, I'd probably come back to the US instead. A 50% raise isn't enough to justify being half a world away from my family.
- roboys 7y ago
  4 times less likely to get murdered in China than in USA. Sounds like a better place to raise a kid too.
  - seanmcdirmid 7y ago
    Until you realize they are 4 times more likely to die in a car accident in China vs the USA. If you are just concerned about survivability, this isn’t a good bet.
    - byw 7y ago
      Probably has to do with people not wearing seatbelts. I remember years ago the taxis had covers on back seats so you couldn't even reach the buckles. Then Shenzhen enforced belts on all seats and things got better there. I wonder if it spread to other cities.
    - cpursley 7y ago
      I'm guessing this is largely due to seatbelt culture.
      - seanmcdirmid 7y ago
        There is more: bad roads, lack of traffic law enforcement, weird liability laws that make fatalities more appealing than injuries, lack of liability at all in many cases, etc...
  - asdfman123 7y ago
    Keep in mind there is a distinction between rich America and poor America. If you are not poor you have little risk of getting murdered. I want to raise my kid in a place where you can speak out about human rights abuses and not censor yourself because the government is listening.
    - magduf 7y ago
      But you have to worry about being reported to CPS or even arrested if you let your kid go outside by himself.
  - opportune 7y ago
    As someone not actively involved in crime, gangs, etc. my chance of getting murdered in the US is roughly zero But I do have political beliefs which would put me under threat in China were I to voice them or act on them. And I would want to raise my children in a place where they won't be discriminated against for being LGBT (although discrimination still happens in the US, at least you can be out and proud. In China, to my knowledge homosexuality is very much "don't ask don't tell")

asdfman123 7y ago

It's probably because there is a healthy tech industry in China and it's home. If could take classes in China and possibly get a job making 50% more there, I'd probably come back to the US instead. A 50% raise isn't enough to justify being half a world away from my family.

roboys 7y ago
4 times less likely to get murdered in China than in USA. Sounds like a better place to raise a kid too.
- seanmcdirmid 7y ago
  Until you realize they are 4 times more likely to die in a car accident in China vs the USA. If you are just concerned about survivability, this isn’t a good bet.
  - byw 7y ago
    Probably has to do with people not wearing seatbelts. I remember years ago the taxis had covers on back seats so you couldn't even reach the buckles. Then Shenzhen enforced belts on all seats and things got better there. I wonder if it spread to other cities.
  - cpursley 7y ago
    I'm guessing this is largely due to seatbelt culture.
    - seanmcdirmid 7y ago
      There is more: bad roads, lack of traffic law enforcement, weird liability laws that make fatalities more appealing than injuries, lack of liability at all in many cases, etc...
- asdfman123 7y ago
  Keep in mind there is a distinction between rich America and poor America. If you are not poor you have little risk of getting murdered. I want to raise my kid in a place where you can speak out about human rights abuses and not censor yourself because the government is listening.
  - magduf 7y ago
    But you have to worry about being reported to CPS or even arrested if you let your kid go outside by himself.
- opportune 7y ago
  As someone not actively involved in crime, gangs, etc. my chance of getting murdered in the US is roughly zero But I do have political beliefs which would put me under threat in China were I to voice them or act on them. And I would want to raise my children in a place where they won't be discriminated against for being LGBT (although discrimination still happens in the US, at least you can be out and proud. In China, to my knowledge homosexuality is very much "don't ask don't tell")