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> "IQ of 70 or greater" It means that 70 is the lowest IQ of people with High-functioning autism, which makes the average much higher than that. > and "HFA is

by krn 7y ago

> "IQ of 70 or greater" It means that 70 is the lowest IQ of people with High-functioning autism, which makes the average much higher than that. > and "HFA is not a recognized diagnosis" So is Asperger's since 2013. Yet, there is a huge difference between people with high-functioning and low-functioning autism. A person with low-functioning autism is not able to live independently at all.

krageon 7y ago
> which makes the average much higher than that. All it means is that this is the lowest IQ. The average might be 71, we cannot deduce that one way or the other from "IQ of 70 or greater".
- krn 7y ago
  > The average might be 71, we cannot deduce that one way or the other from "IQ of 70 or greater". We cannot deduce that from this single quote alone, but there are far more detailed figures available[1]: > 31% of children with ASD have an intellectual disability (intelligence quotient [IQ] <70), 25% are in the borderline range (IQ 71–85), and 44% have IQ scores in the average to above average range (i.e., IQ >85). If only the autistic people with IQ of 70 or greater are considered "high-functioning", then 64% of them have IQ greater than 85. In other words, 2/3 of people with High-functioning autism are of average or above average intelligence. [1] https://www.autismspeaks.org/autism-facts-and-figures https://www.autismspeaks.org/autism-facts-and-figures
  - krageon 7y ago
    I appreciate that you elaborated on this! Are you implying here that 44% is 2/3 or that an IQ of 71-85 is already average or above average intelligence? I'm afraid I don't follow your reasoning. It looks to me like you might at most be able to claim from these numbers that 44% is of average or above average intelligence. A little bit off-topic: Doesn't this website belong to the group of people that demonize and vilify (and even anthropomorphize) autism?

by krn 7y ago

krageon 7y ago

> which makes the average much higher than that. All it means is that this is the lowest IQ. The average might be 71, we cannot deduce that one way or the other from "IQ of 70 or greater".

krn 7y ago
> The average might be 71, we cannot deduce that one way or the other from "IQ of 70 or greater". We cannot deduce that from this single quote alone, but there are far more detailed figures available[1]: > 31% of children with ASD have an intellectual disability (intelligence quotient [IQ] <70), 25% are in the borderline range (IQ 71–85), and 44% have IQ scores in the average to above average range (i.e., IQ >85). If only the autistic people with IQ of 70 or greater are considered "high-functioning", then 64% of them have IQ greater than 85. In other words, 2/3 of people with High-functioning autism are of average or above average intelligence. [1] https://www.autismspeaks.org/autism-facts-and-figures https://www.autismspeaks.org/autism-facts-and-figures
- krageon 7y ago
  I appreciate that you elaborated on this! Are you implying here that 44% is 2/3 or that an IQ of 71-85 is already average or above average intelligence? I'm afraid I don't follow your reasoning. It looks to me like you might at most be able to claim from these numbers that 44% is of average or above average intelligence. A little bit off-topic: Doesn't this website belong to the group of people that demonize and vilify (and even anthropomorphize) autism?