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There's a simple solution to any problem related to Facebook. Stop using it.
by sound_and_form 7y ago
There's a simple solution to any problem related to Facebook. Stop using it.
- cageface 7y agoNot as easy as that if your friends are posting photos with your face in them but it’s definitely a very positive first step.
- zerr 7y agoAny alternatives for maintaining remote friendships? EDIT: with passive updates.
- chii 7y agoemail and video calls every now and then.
- tadzik_ 7y agoAny other form of communication – email, IMs, phones etc. If you're not having a conversation but just "like" each other's photos it's not "maintaining a remote friendship" anyway.
- zerr 7y agoPassively receiving some updates, i.e. where they've checked in, some new photos, posts/comments, etc... is also useful I think.
- megous 7y agoBlogs used to be/are good for that.
- tadzik_ 7y agoYeah, good point. I often find myself wanting to follow what some people are up to (friends or not), and it's always frustrating how it requires you to be a part of a certain platform to do that – you can't follow anyone's instagram, facebook, twitter etc without an account, and even then you still need to go on instagram/facebook/twitter to actually check it out. I recently created myself a Pixelfed (a federated instagram, basically) and was pleasantly surprised how my profile has a plain, old RSS feed, so that anyone can "track" me without ever visiting a website (which is something that ActivityPub itself also allows, but AP still forces you to be a part of the "system", so to say). I'd much prefer that kind of Federated world, but I don't see how we can get there in any other way than spreading awareness about it and basically nagging our friends (at the risk of isolating ourselves) – “I wish I could follow your adventures and thoughts, but I don't want a facebook account”. This of course requires a critical mass for basically each person, and probably a way of automatically updating the locked-in platforms (for each post you push to pixelfed/blog it updates your instagram/facebook) so that the ones who take a step out don't need to leave their locked-in friends behind.
- ubercow13 7y agoHow is using ActivityPub any more being part of the system than having to use the RSS 'system'?
- tadzik_ 7y agoActivityPub requires an account on a server of some sort. RSS is client-only, so the "friction" is much lower. Of all the people who listen to podcasts through some kind of an app, how many of them have created an account anywhere?
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- raverbashing 7y agoNone are passive
- Fnoord 7y agohttps://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2549 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2549 On a serious note, all the tools from before Facebook existed still work. If you need Facebook/Twitter alternative consider Mastodon or Diaspora.
- mrmanner 7y agoI’m still a Facebook user, but I’m thinking more and more about leaving. Not so much because of the tracking as for the expectation of maintaining tens of hundreds of “friendships”. Keeping track of what former colleagues are up to, meeting someone at a conference every other year and the conversation is 90% “I saw online that you (...)”, and having less time for proper conversations with actual remote friends. I don’t know how it will end, but I’m confident that I’ll keep in touch with the friends that are actually important. Not staying in semi-touch with people I don’t feel the urge to call, send a mail, or invite/travel to is something I look forward to :)
- astura 7y agoWhy not just unfriend or unfollow former colleagues and people that you met at conferences?
- progval 7y agoEmail, forums, the Fediverse (Mastodon/Pleroma/...), Twitter
- 6gvONxR4sf7o 7y agoSince leaving facebook, I've found the lack of passive interactions has increased the number of active interactions I have with my friends. Leaving facebook has strengthened a number of my friendships.
- Despegar 7y agoThe better solution is to regulate it. And fortunately governments everywhere are down that path.
- feanaro 7y agoThe only useful regulation would be to forbid it and it probably won't happen. It also cannot prevent governments from doing it. Apart from regulation, we also need technical solutions.
- Nextgrid 7y agoDon’t forbid Facebook. It is a good tool that can be used for good. Forbid stalking, dark patterns, lies (aka fraud) and their overall lack of morals & ethics. Facebook will be welcome to adapt and behave like a well-meaning member of society.
- nashashmi 7y agoAgreed. Facebook is like a commercialized implementation of CIA and other miscellaneous intelligence practices. And its commercialization is skewed towards benefitting the advertising companies. This is a double negative. There motto could have been to SERVE THE USER. Instead it became FOCUS on the user. They focus their product towards three dark patterns: extracting data from the user, manipulating the user, and addicting the user. For now it is towards the benefit of advertisers which is Relatively harmless in the future scheme of things. A more benign use could have been connecting users across the world to each other and to other companies for healthy conversations. To be what FRIENDS were meant to always be. Where did I go wrong? I lost a friend.
- svdr 7y agoThey may adapt but not motivated from within. We need another Facebook with different company values wrt privacy.
- Nextgrid 7y ago
- dagurp 7y agoThen I have to deal with FOMO
- Ultramanoid 7y agoIt is not that simple. I do not use it. Yet someone can upload an image I send them, or my photograph without my knowledge. It needs to be strictly regulated.
- zzzcpan 7y agoThis is how the internet works. Any files you send someone can end up somewhere on the internet. Facebook has nothing to do with it.
- Ultramanoid 7y agoFacebook has everything to do with the data they host, modify, and distribute. And the current legal debate and regulations about it are long overdue.
- zzzcpan 7y agoFiles you send someone are out of your control whether you like it or not and can end up somewhere on the internet. The world where regulations can prevent that would be so creepy dystopian, that it wouldn't even need humans anymore.
- Ultramanoid 7y agoThat's conflating two different problems. The issue of someone posting something without permission is one, and what Facebook does with what it distributes is another, entirely different second issue. We are discussing the second. Is it dystopian to regulate that sites cannot host and distribute pedophile content for instance ? Regulations are needed, in the internet as much as anywhere else.
- zzzcpan 7y ago> Is it dystopian to regulate that sites cannot host and distribute pedophile content for instance ? Yes, this is exactly dystopian.
- huang47 7y agoeven better, stop using internet
- qrbLPHiKpiux 7y agoOr just use it responsibly. For researching information and not providing it. It's not the internet, it's social media. I believe in time history will show it was one of the worst advances of mankind.
- ignoramous 7y agoShadow Facebook profiles are a thing, and given the fact that the Facebook sdk is spread like a plague amongst everyday 3p mobile apps in-use, there doesn't seem to be an end to this madness in sight. I personally block Facebook domains at dns-level on my phone but not everyone does. And that is not even enough given the fact that Facebook owns WhatsApp and Instagram, their presence grows ever more ominous given their ubiquity. > ...Facebook. Stop using it. Easier said than done, I guess.
- HenryBemis 7y agoAdblock+ with some lists, Privacy Badger, and NoScript can wipe all FB interference. A solid hosts file can also add one more layer to eliminate exposure to FB, Pinterest, and other fancy trackers. Btw, yes it is easy. I have stopped using FB for so long that in order to log back in to delete my account they are asking me to be verified via "friends" (people I haven't worked with or talked to for years).