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Snarky conservatives who never heard of energy storage would say - "And nights too?"
by rotten 7y ago
Snarky conservatives who never heard of energy storage would say - "And nights too?"
- toomuchtodo 7y agoCosta Rica has a large hydro capacity, so nights too :)
- rbritton 7y agoFun fact: Last I heard, Washington state does not consider hydro to be renewable [0]. I don't know if any other states are similar. [0]: https://shiftwa.org/its-time-wa-considers-hydropower-as-renewable-energy/ https://shiftwa.org/its-time-wa-considers-hydropower-as-rene...
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- fintechpwmMEdev 7y agoIt shouldn't - the damage dams do to our fisheries is devastating. We likely wouldn't need fish farms and genetic modified salmon if we didn't have so many dams. It would be interesting to see what effects the New Deal had on our fish populations... https://livingnewdeal.org/new-deal-categories/infrastructure/dams/ https://livingnewdeal.org/new-deal-categories/infrastructure...
- godshatter 7y agoI would consider them renewable as long as the river keeps flowing. The question of whether or not we should use them because of the damage to fish populations is another question entirely.
- NegativeLatency 7y agoNot just the fish are impacted by the dams https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2018/11/feds-approve-plan-for-state-officials-to-kill-sea-lions-at-willamette-falls.html https://www.oregonlive.com/news/2018/11/feds-approve-plan-fo... > The state applied to kill the sea lions “because their analyses showed that the high levels of predation by sea lions meant there was an almost 90% probability that one of the upper Willamette steelhead runs would go extinct,” the wildlife agency said in a statement.
- NegativeLatency 7y agoNot to mention the cascading downstream (no pun intended) effects like Orcas starving to death. https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/hunger-the-decline-of-salmon-adds-to-the-struggle-of-puget-sounds-orcas/ https://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/environment/hunger... https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/25/orca-starving-washington-feed-salmon-lummi-native-american https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/apr/25/orca-sta...
- throwaway5752 7y agoRenewable is immaterial as long as it doesn't emit CO2. Nuclear isn't renewable, either.
- Ericson2314 7y agoNuclear doesn't ravage fish and watersheds either!
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- jnellis 7y agohttps://duckduckgo.com/?q=hanford+leaking+into+columbia https://duckduckgo.com/?q=hanford+leaking+into+columbia
- derblitzmann 7y agoHanford isn't a power plant, it was a nuclear production facility for weapons grade nuclear material.
- jnellis 7y ago"The last reactor, N Reactor, continued to operate as a dual-purpose reactor, being both a power reactor used to feed the civilian electrical grid via the Washington Public Power Supply System (WPPSS)" "Hanford also hosts a commercial nuclear power plant, the Columbia Generating Station, and various centers for scientific research and development, such as the Pacific Northwest National Laboratory and the LIGO Hanford Observatory. "
- throwaway5752 7y agoNuclear has well known downsides. As I mentioned, it's not renewable so isn't a permanent path forward for human civilization. But additionally it currently has unpriced externalities in long term waste storage, looks less attractive when fuel & plant are full amortized over lifecycle, complex relationship with arms proliferation, limited deployment options because of large cooling requirements, requires permanent and expensive security and expertise over the life of a plant, and others. It's not the harmless cure-all that it's made out to be here at times. edit: that said, CO2 levels are an immediate planetary crisis and nuclear is a tool we can and should use to mitigate it.
- dang 7y agoMaybe so, but please don't post unsubstantive comments here, and especially please don't take HN threads on ideological tangents. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html