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> Instead of more bystanders creating an immobilizing “bystander effect,” the study actually found the more bystanders there were, the more likely it was that a

> Instead of more bystanders creating an immobilizing “bystander effect,” the study actually found the more bystanders there were, the more likely it was that at least someone would intervene to help. Perhaps with more people around one person considers that he will gain support, so the danger of acting will be minimized.

Tehdasi 7y ago
Would be interesting to see if it went up linearly or some other function of the number of ppl. Also, what do they define as a 'bystander'? If it's ppl with pre-existing relationships (which would not be clear from CC footage) it doesn't particularly go against the bystander effect.
- SubiculumCode 7y ago
  Yes, I wonder how they distinguished someone being alone or with friends, as that would be important.
intended 7y ago
Or simply that in this case, the bystander effect didn’t occur. It’s also why today when something goes wrong, people are told to look directly at specific people and say “call the cops”/ “hold their head” and so on,
- Nition 7y ago
  Or that the bystander effect did occur, but that X% of people aren't affected by it, and in a larger group it becomes more likely that one of those X% of people will be around.
  - scarejunba 7y ago
    Or maybe we all learnt about the bystander effect and were inoculated against it! :)
- pbhjpbhj 7y ago
  "call the cops and tell me when they will arrive" (in order to get feedback and ensure the caller relays the emergency nature of the situation).
ALittleLight 7y ago
I think both could be true. Consider T to be the likelihood an individual will intervene, N the number of individuals, and P the probability of an intervention. N, T = 1, 0.5 then P = 0.5 N, T = 10, 0.2 then P = (1-.8^10) = 0.9 Basically, the likelihood of an average individual to intervene may decline as there are more people, but the likelihood that at least one individual does intervene increases as crowd size does.

Tehdasi 7y ago

Would be interesting to see if it went up linearly or some other function of the number of ppl. Also, what do they define as a 'bystander'? If it's ppl with pre-existing relationships (which would not be clear from CC footage) it doesn't particularly go against the bystander effect.

SubiculumCode 7y ago
Yes, I wonder how they distinguished someone being alone or with friends, as that would be important.

intended 7y ago

Or simply that in this case, the bystander effect didn’t occur. It’s also why today when something goes wrong, people are told to look directly at specific people and say “call the cops”/ “hold their head” and so on,

Nition 7y ago
Or that the bystander effect did occur, but that X% of people aren't affected by it, and in a larger group it becomes more likely that one of those X% of people will be around.
- scarejunba 7y ago
  Or maybe we all learnt about the bystander effect and were inoculated against it! :)
pbhjpbhj 7y ago
"call the cops and tell me when they will arrive" (in order to get feedback and ensure the caller relays the emergency nature of the situation).

ALittleLight 7y ago

I think both could be true. Consider T to be the likelihood an individual will intervene, N the number of individuals, and P the probability of an intervention. N, T = 1, 0.5 then P = 0.5 N, T = 10, 0.2 then P = (1-.8^10) = 0.9 Basically, the likelihood of an average individual to intervene may decline as there are more people, but the likelihood that at least one individual does intervene increases as crowd size does.