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Are you litigating the boeing v airbus thing? didn't the WTO rule that airbus is receiving billions in illegal subsidies? And are you suggesting that france do

Are you litigating the boeing v airbus thing? didn't the WTO rule that airbus is receiving billions in illegal subsidies? And are you suggesting that france doesn't subside specific industries? If you're complaints are exclusive to the aviation and defence industries then a US complaint regarding the EU and france could include that and every other industry.

hef19898 7y ago
AFAIK the case against Boeing is still open. Arguably Airbus is getting direct subsidies (WTO ruling) while Boeing seems to get pampered by overpriced defense contracts which has the same result more or less (no WTO ruling yet). Conclusion is nobody is innocent, just guilty in different ways.
- fyoving 7y ago
  "EU paid Airbus billions in illegal subsidies, WTO rules" https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44120525 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44120525
  - hef19898 7y ago
    True, didn't check but I think the case against Boeing brought foward by the EU is still open. Not sure if memory serves well.
  - olivepistacchio 7y ago
    Imagine if Airbus was not there, there would be no safe plane to do short-haul.
    - sokoloff 7y ago
      Nonsense. Plenty of 717, non-Max 737, MD-88, MD-90, and E170/175/190/195 out there.
  - pinkfoot 7y ago
    WTO confirms US failed to fully comply over Boeing subsidies https://phys.org/news/2019-03-wto-fully-comply-boeing-subsidies.html https://phys.org/news/2019-03-wto-fully-comply-boeing-subsid... 1-1
nolok 7y ago
I did not write a single word or hint about any of the things you listed, I didn't even have them on my mind. You are 100% projecting.
Xixi 7y ago
"The World Trade Organization appeals panel today upheld European claims that Boeing received billions of dollars in illegal tax breaks and subsidies from the US Department of Defense, Washington State, Kansas and South Carolina." https://leehamnews.com/2019/03/28/wto-appeals-court-rules-against-boeing-airbus-claims-minimum-15bn-in-harm/ https://leehamnews.com/2019/03/28/wto-appeals-court-rules-ag...

hef19898 7y ago

AFAIK the case against Boeing is still open. Arguably Airbus is getting direct subsidies (WTO ruling) while Boeing seems to get pampered by overpriced defense contracts which has the same result more or less (no WTO ruling yet). Conclusion is nobody is innocent, just guilty in different ways.

fyoving 7y ago
"EU paid Airbus billions in illegal subsidies, WTO rules" https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44120525 https://www.bbc.com/news/business-44120525
- hef19898 7y ago
  True, didn't check but I think the case against Boeing brought foward by the EU is still open. Not sure if memory serves well.
- olivepistacchio 7y ago
  Imagine if Airbus was not there, there would be no safe plane to do short-haul.
  - sokoloff 7y ago
    Nonsense. Plenty of 717, non-Max 737, MD-88, MD-90, and E170/175/190/195 out there.
- pinkfoot 7y ago
  WTO confirms US failed to fully comply over Boeing subsidies https://phys.org/news/2019-03-wto-fully-comply-boeing-subsidies.html https://phys.org/news/2019-03-wto-fully-comply-boeing-subsid... 1-1

nolok 7y ago

I did not write a single word or hint about any of the things you listed, I didn't even have them on my mind. You are 100% projecting.

Xixi 7y ago

"The World Trade Organization appeals panel today upheld European claims that Boeing received billions of dollars in illegal tax breaks and subsidies from the US Department of Defense, Washington State, Kansas and South Carolina." https://leehamnews.com/2019/03/28/wto-appeals-court-rules-against-boeing-airbus-claims-minimum-15bn-in-harm/ https://leehamnews.com/2019/03/28/wto-appeals-court-rules-ag...