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That's what the Purism laptops have. But they're linux-based (although I hear Mac OS is based on linux kernel).

by hereme888 7y ago

ohazi 7y ago
Mac OS is in no way based on the Linux kernel.
- amelius 7y ago
  Perhaps it would be if the license was different.
  - arcticbull 7y ago
    They began development at NeXT in 1985, 6 years before Linux.
  - jedberg 7y ago
    Unlikely. The Apple kernel guys are purists and would probably use the BSD kernel even if Linux were MIT licensed.
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    - asveikau 7y ago
      In the 90s they had a project called MkLinux that had Linux combined with Mach in a similar position to where BSD is in XNU. This was shortly after the NeXT acquisition. I bet they were considering it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MkLinux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MkLinux
pietroglyph 7y ago
macOS is based upon XNU, which was based upon the Mach kernel (with bits of BSD userspace), not Linux.
groovybits 7y ago
Mac OS was originally based on BSD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution
- arcticbull 7y ago
  The kernel is not BSD, it's based on the Mach microkernel [1] with a BSD compatibility layer implemented on top. The whole thing collectively is called XNU [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel) [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU
  - zonidjan 7y ago
    It was developed from something that was based on Mach. However, it is also based on BSD, as your second link states. > The BSD code present in XNU came from the FreeBSD kernel. Although much of it has been significantly modified, code sharing still occurs between Apple and the FreeBSD Project.
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    - asveikau 7y ago
      The description of "Mach with a BSD layer on top" was nonetheless accurate. When you look at actual BSD you will see it is rather un-Mac-like, so I don't think it is a highly relevant comparison. (The path drawn here from the Purism laptop to XNU is very dubious.)
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meruru 7y ago
The Pinebook too.

That's what the Purism laptops have. But they're linux-based (although I hear Mac OS is based on linux kernel).

ohazi 7y ago

Mac OS is in no way based on the Linux kernel.

amelius 7y ago
Perhaps it would be if the license was different.
- arcticbull 7y ago
  They began development at NeXT in 1985, 6 years before Linux.
- jedberg 7y ago
  Unlikely. The Apple kernel guys are purists and would probably use the BSD kernel even if Linux were MIT licensed.
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  - asveikau 7y ago
    In the 90s they had a project called MkLinux that had Linux combined with Mach in a similar position to where BSD is in XNU. This was shortly after the NeXT acquisition. I bet they were considering it. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MkLinux https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MkLinux

pietroglyph 7y ago

macOS is based upon XNU, which was based upon the Mach kernel (with bits of BSD userspace), not Linux.

groovybits 7y ago

Mac OS was originally based on BSD. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Berkeley_Software_Distribution

arcticbull 7y ago
The kernel is not BSD, it's based on the Mach microkernel [1] with a BSD compatibility layer implemented on top. The whole thing collectively is called XNU [2]. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mach_(kernel) [2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XNU
- zonidjan 7y ago
  It was developed from something that was based on Mach. However, it is also based on BSD, as your second link states. > The BSD code present in XNU came from the FreeBSD kernel. Although much of it has been significantly modified, code sharing still occurs between Apple and the FreeBSD Project.
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  - asveikau 7y ago
    The description of "Mach with a BSD layer on top" was nonetheless accurate. When you look at actual BSD you will see it is rather un-Mac-like, so I don't think it is a highly relevant comparison. (The path drawn here from the Purism laptop to XNU is very dubious.)

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meruru 7y ago

The Pinebook too.