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Google seems to think they can implement video gaming over IP. And they probably can, my ping to them is only 9ms, less than a frame. There is just a broad lac

by mantap 7y ago

Google seems to think they can implement video gaming over IP. And they probably can, my ping to them is only 9ms, less than a frame. There is just a broad lack of interest in reducing latency past a certain point unless there is a business reason for it. People don't notice 1 second of latency.

Aloha 7y ago
They do, voice and video calls are intolerable at 1s of latency.
seventhtiger 7y ago
Why didn't they use that capability for voice/video communication? Are games a better business? I remember Hangouts being better than Skype, but that's not high praise. Every calling service I've used has been laggy and disconnects often.
baybal2 7y ago
> Google seems to think they can implement video gaming over IP. No the didn't. Early attempts at streaming videogame were unplayable even with a server in another room or a direct DC connection. And they want it to work over an average internet connection in America. No, the definitely did not solve the issue
- girvo 7y ago
  And yet, I was able to game competitively from my apartment in Brisbane, using a server in Sydney, using Parsec; usually coming in at less than a frame of latency, sometimes just over a frame. This was two years ago, too. And Australia isn't known for it's amazing internet connections (though mine was better than most).
- Dylan16807 7y ago
  Just because one group was incompetent doesn't mean another will be. It has been possible for years to get a total encode+decode latency of less than one frame with x264. Meanwhile many people are gaming on TVs that impose 3-8 frames of processing lag. And you can beat most current tech by more than half a frame just by supporting HDMI 2.1 or variable refresh rate. (Instead of taking 1/60 of a second to send a frame, you send it as fast as the cable can support, which is 5-12x faster)
- mrep 7y ago
  I played over 20 hours of assassins creed through chrome during the stadia beta and I couldn't notice any latency. While it might not work for games like cs go, AR, or bad networks, they 100% have a working product today for assassins creed.
skocznymroczny 7y ago
> less than a frame my 144Hz screen would disagree.

by mantap 7y ago

Aloha 7y ago

They do, voice and video calls are intolerable at 1s of latency.

seventhtiger 7y ago

Why didn't they use that capability for voice/video communication? Are games a better business? I remember Hangouts being better than Skype, but that's not high praise. Every calling service I've used has been laggy and disconnects often.

baybal2 7y ago

> Google seems to think they can implement video gaming over IP. No the didn't. Early attempts at streaming videogame were unplayable even with a server in another room or a direct DC connection. And they want it to work over an average internet connection in America. No, the definitely did not solve the issue

girvo 7y ago
And yet, I was able to game competitively from my apartment in Brisbane, using a server in Sydney, using Parsec; usually coming in at less than a frame of latency, sometimes just over a frame. This was two years ago, too. And Australia isn't known for it's amazing internet connections (though mine was better than most).
Dylan16807 7y ago
Just because one group was incompetent doesn't mean another will be. It has been possible for years to get a total encode+decode latency of less than one frame with x264. Meanwhile many people are gaming on TVs that impose 3-8 frames of processing lag. And you can beat most current tech by more than half a frame just by supporting HDMI 2.1 or variable refresh rate. (Instead of taking 1/60 of a second to send a frame, you send it as fast as the cable can support, which is 5-12x faster)
mrep 7y ago
I played over 20 hours of assassins creed through chrome during the stadia beta and I couldn't notice any latency. While it might not work for games like cs go, AR, or bad networks, they 100% have a working product today for assassins creed.

skocznymroczny 7y ago

> less than a frame my 144Hz screen would disagree.