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Not sure if it really helps when making a choice but here's an extensive overview of 185 VPN services over 30+ factors: https://thatoneprivacysite.net/#simple-v

by guaka 7y ago

Not sure if it really helps when making a choice but here's an extensive overview of 185 VPN services over 30+ factors: https://thatoneprivacysite.net/#simple-vpn-comparison https://thatoneprivacysite.net/#simple-vpn-comparison

nurettin 7y ago
The point is not to make a choice but to be informed about how the industry is somehow tied together in interesting ways. I would also add that many of these VPN services turn your machine into a drone where you knowingly or unknowingly enter into a contract so that they can sell your bandwidth to paying customers to provide them with randomized IP pools so that they can scrape amazon and alibaba.
- atmosx 7y ago
  Interesting. Given that scraping Amazon is illegal, shouldn't these companies pinpointed and sued?
  - kpU8efre7r 7y ago
    Is it illegal or against terms?
    - atmosx 7y ago
      Against terms indeed.
  - grepthisab 7y ago
    It's not illegal, it's against their TOS, bug difference. In any case, if there's money to be made, you'll find even more reputable entities will operate at the margins of ethics and legality. In any case, probably more cost effective to come up with a technical solution rather than suing every pop up scraper of Amazon. Or just sue the VPN provider itself?
    - atmosx 7y ago
      I was talking about the VPN provider of course.
      - nurettin 7y ago
        Not sure about VPNs, but data centers usually harbor their own RBL services to blackmail you to stop doing whatever you are doing as soon as you put their network under stress or continually visit a certain domain/ip range (or get hacked and be used as a drone to DDOS some website)
- pnutjam 7y ago
  Don't use any VPN providers client, stick to straight openvpn.
  - auslander 7y ago
    Better yet, use IKEv2, not openvpn. Windows, MacOS and iOS has native IKEv2 clients. And most probably in Linux too :) Just make and install VPN profile as yourvpn.mobileconfig text file.
    - Fnoord 7y ago
      Better yet, use WireGuard.
    - nurettin 7y ago
      That is interesting, but openvpn also has clients for android, macos, ios and windows as well as linux (gnome nmcli has it baked in, you can just import an ovpn file)
      - auslander 7y ago
        Yeah, but the key is you don't want to install third-party apps. You already have IKEv2 client within your OS. Trust no one :)
        JadeNB 7y ago
        Except the programmers of the IKEv2 client in your OS …?
- moltar 7y ago
  I thought it was just one that does it. The one that advertises a free VPN. Do you have a list of companies who resell traffic?

by guaka 7y ago

nurettin 7y ago

The point is not to make a choice but to be informed about how the industry is somehow tied together in interesting ways. I would also add that many of these VPN services turn your machine into a drone where you knowingly or unknowingly enter into a contract so that they can sell your bandwidth to paying customers to provide them with randomized IP pools so that they can scrape amazon and alibaba.

atmosx 7y ago
Interesting. Given that scraping Amazon is illegal, shouldn't these companies pinpointed and sued?
- kpU8efre7r 7y ago
  Is it illegal or against terms?
  - atmosx 7y ago
    Against terms indeed.
- grepthisab 7y ago
  It's not illegal, it's against their TOS, bug difference. In any case, if there's money to be made, you'll find even more reputable entities will operate at the margins of ethics and legality. In any case, probably more cost effective to come up with a technical solution rather than suing every pop up scraper of Amazon. Or just sue the VPN provider itself?
  - atmosx 7y ago
    I was talking about the VPN provider of course.
    - nurettin 7y ago
      Not sure about VPNs, but data centers usually harbor their own RBL services to blackmail you to stop doing whatever you are doing as soon as you put their network under stress or continually visit a certain domain/ip range (or get hacked and be used as a drone to DDOS some website)
pnutjam 7y ago
Don't use any VPN providers client, stick to straight openvpn.
- auslander 7y ago
  Better yet, use IKEv2, not openvpn. Windows, MacOS and iOS has native IKEv2 clients. And most probably in Linux too :) Just make and install VPN profile as yourvpn.mobileconfig text file.
  - Fnoord 7y ago
    Better yet, use WireGuard.
  - nurettin 7y ago
    That is interesting, but openvpn also has clients for android, macos, ios and windows as well as linux (gnome nmcli has it baked in, you can just import an ovpn file)
    - auslander 7y ago
      Yeah, but the key is you don't want to install third-party apps. You already have IKEv2 client within your OS. Trust no one :)
      - JadeNB 7y ago
        Except the programmers of the IKEv2 client in your OS …?
moltar 7y ago
I thought it was just one that does it. The one that advertises a free VPN. Do you have a list of companies who resell traffic?