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How does the HN system work when I submitted the exact same URL https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20317687 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20317687 five
by chx 7y ago
How does the HN system work when I submitted the exact same URL https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20317687 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20317687 five days ago??? We have stickied this on the usbchardware subreddit as well at the time, it's still on the top: https://www.reddit.com/r/UsbCHardware/ https://www.reddit.com/r/UsbCHardware/ We have a nice wiki and if you are still confused about USB C, ask away, we try to help (chances are, I will answer :) ). You will also find a wonderful cornucopia of interesting USB C devices -- not just the usual chargers, power banks and docks but also a toothbrush, a razor, headphones, speakers, video lights, a soldering iron... we like USB C :)
- tracker1 7y agoJust guessing the person that submitted later has significantly more karma or popularity. It seems to happen quite a bit. There's also time of day to consider, it's possible this made it in when more people are browsing by newest and upvoted pretty early.
- glenneroo 7y agochx has 8000+ karma whereas OP has ~600, so scratch that as a possible explanation. I would also guess it mainly depends on the time of day.
- chx 7y agoThe question rather is, why would the system allow the same URL to be submitted twice. In the past when I tried to submit something already in, I was redirected to the existing post and my submissions was converted into an upvote.
- hombre_fatal 7y agoA five-day-old HN submission is effectively dead. Would make sense if the behavior you describe only happens to dupe urls within 24hr of each other if the first one hit a certain threshold of traction. Else makes more sense to allow the dupe submission to give it another shot.
- dang 7y agoYou get redirected to an existing post if it has already had significant attention or is less than 8 hours old. Otherwise reposts go through.
- chx 7y agoWhy don't you just bump the post to newest if someone attempted to resubmit it?
- dang 7y agoI don't understand what you mean exactly.
- chx 7y agoLet's presume http://example.com http://example.com was never submitted. So, when it is submitted, it is on the top of https://news.ycombinator.com/newest https://news.ycombinator.com/newest but it doesn't get much attention. Now let's resubmit http://example.com http://example.com a few days later. It should be on top of https://news.ycombinator.com/newest https://news.ycombinator.com/newest again. But not as a new post. No, the first submission should be moved up here. Obviously after some time / amount of comments this makes no sense, people resubmit years old links etc but thresholds can be set.
- dang 7y agoThanks, I see what you mean now. If we did that then /newest would no longer be a simple chronological log of everything posted to HN.
- dang 7y agoKarma doesn't affect it. It's really mostly random.
- jk2faster 7y agoIndeed, there seems to optimal times for posting: http://hnnotify.leknarf.net/ http://hnnotify.leknarf.net/
- dang 7y ago> How does the HN system work when I submitted the exact same URL This is a frequently asked question. The answer can be found in HN's FAQ: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsfaq.html. Reposts are allowed if a story hasn't had significant attention yet, because we there's a lot of randomness in what gets noticed on the /newest page and we want to give good stories multiple rolls of the dice. Lots more explanation over the years: https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comment&storyText=false&prefix=true&page=0&query=by:dang%20dupe https://hn.algolia.com/?sort=byDate&dateRange=all&type=comme...