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> There is also what we call it the "aircon" war. I have yet to experience an aircon war in Germany, but there is also a pattern where men want to open a windo

> There is also what we call it the "aircon" war. I have yet to experience an aircon war in Germany, but there is also a pattern where men want to open a window to keep the air fresh, while women find it too chilly and want to turn on a radiator instead (of course there are exceptions). I can't get much done in radiator air, so that's one more reason to work from home, or in well-matched office rooms.

close04 7y ago
> men want to open a window to keep the air fresh, while women find it too chilly This tends to happen a lot in environments where business attire is a must. It's harder to find a good compromise when some people wear business suit and tie and some wear skirts or open shoulders. And that's even before you factor in possible physiological factors (people have different comfort zones).
- gurkendoktor 7y ago
  Thankfully I've never worked in an office where suits were a thing. But this was a recurring issue even in a typical IT environment (jeans and T-shirts), and at school before that.
- pbhjpbhj 7y ago
  Force the women to wear suits too, or let the men wear shorts and a shirt with no tie. If you've got menopausal women that's a problem too, and I think perhaps women and men just have different temperature preference distributions. My kids teachers (all female) refuse to let the boys wear shorts except in Summer term because the teachers consider it not to be warm enough .. but they wear skirts and dresses all year .. which is weird. Established norms on dress and room heating/cooling are pretty arbitrary I feel.
  - close04 7y ago
    > perhaps women and men just have different temperature preference distributions I bundled all that under "physiological factors". There are also sociocultural factors at play but that's a minefield of a discussion. It's how gender stereotypes are born and educated into kids from a young age.

close04 7y ago

> men want to open a window to keep the air fresh, while women find it too chilly This tends to happen a lot in environments where business attire is a must. It's harder to find a good compromise when some people wear business suit and tie and some wear skirts or open shoulders. And that's even before you factor in possible physiological factors (people have different comfort zones).

gurkendoktor 7y ago
Thankfully I've never worked in an office where suits were a thing. But this was a recurring issue even in a typical IT environment (jeans and T-shirts), and at school before that.
pbhjpbhj 7y ago
Force the women to wear suits too, or let the men wear shorts and a shirt with no tie. If you've got menopausal women that's a problem too, and I think perhaps women and men just have different temperature preference distributions. My kids teachers (all female) refuse to let the boys wear shorts except in Summer term because the teachers consider it not to be warm enough .. but they wear skirts and dresses all year .. which is weird. Established norms on dress and room heating/cooling are pretty arbitrary I feel.
- close04 7y ago
  > perhaps women and men just have different temperature preference distributions I bundled all that under "physiological factors". There are also sociocultural factors at play but that's a minefield of a discussion. It's how gender stereotypes are born and educated into kids from a young age.