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Apple releases iOS 13 macOS Catalina public betas
- saagarjha 7y agoDidn't these come out earlier last week?
- xenospn 7y agoYeah, a few days ago.
- mosselman 7y agoBased on previous betas, how soon can we expect the final versions? I am pretty excited about some new features
- jpgvm 7y agoFinal release normally coincides with sale of new hardware. So likely September to come with new MacBook Pro and Mac Pro models.
- rnikander 7y agoDidn’t they already release new MacBook Pro models in May? Is there another release coming in September?
- liquid9 7y agoThere is rumors for a 16 inch one. https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/24/18715156/apple-16-inch-macbook-pro-release-date-resolution https://www.theverge.com/2019/6/24/18715156/apple-16-inch-ma...
- raydev 7y agoThe last update was a minor bump in specs. The current models are more than 3 years old and there are rumors swirling about a new design. Since macOS is always released in September/October, people are speculating there will be an event for updated Macs at that time. The iMac Pro is also long out of date, and maybe they have more to talk about with the Mac Pro.
- jmelloy 7y agoSeptember/October
- saagarjha 7y agoA week or two after the September iPhone event.
- olliepop 7y agoIf you're interested, please be warned that these betas are extremely buggy. I don't mean 1 or 2 bugs experienced per day, I mean a bug in almost every minute of interaction. You will incur severely reduced battery life and many broken apps, particularly on the iOS beta. On the upside, this is an invaluable preview particularly for an app developer or Apple enthusiast. At the very least you should back up your device first so that you can roll back if necessary - officially there is no other way other than performing a factory reset.
- cassianoleal 7y agoI have been running the betas on 2 laptops and 1 iPhone since they came out. I had my main laptop crash exactly once - and I think it was due to a buggy kext trying to force its way into the kernel. It hasn't happened again. There have been a few aesthetic bugs related to the automatic handling of dark/light mode, which can now be enabled without external help (I used to rely on f.lux to get dark mode in the evening). These are pretty benign and don't cause me trouble. Other than that, macOS Catalina has been smooth sailing, even at compiling software, installing stuff via homebrew, developer tooling - I do mostly Python and Golang stuff but Ruby has been rock solid too. iOS 13 also brought me a few visual bugs which don't (gah) bug me too much, and I had a few app crashes but nothing horrible either. My bank apps don't work on it yet so I'm currently relying on desktop browsing or other banks, depending on the situation. Not a huge deal either. Battery life doesn't seem to be suffering on either platform, differently from my experience with previous betas.
- Someone 7y agoIf you are “using macOS High Sierra or later on an APFS-formatted startup disk”, you can create additional APFS volumes on the startup disk and install the beta there. That way, you can switch between your ‘normal’ OS and the beta, and reverting is a matter of deleting the volume you created for the beta (https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT208891 https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT208891) Of course, that is riskier than installing on a separate disk or even Mac, as the beta PS could easily damage both volumes.
- DeusExMachina 7y agoIn the case of macOS, you can install it on a separate APFS volume [1] without touching your current installation. I have been using it to test the new features in Xcode 11/ iOS 13, and it has spared me many headaches. https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT208891 https://support.apple.com/en-ca/HT208891
- crb 7y agoIs iPadOS v1 or v13?
- jclardy 7y agoMy guess would be 1.0, since WatchOS is now 6.0.
- AgloeDreams 7y agov13, likely just because it is basically iOS whereas WatchOS differs from iOS in big ways.
- geoffpado 7y agoAccording to the "software version" field in Settings in the betas, 13.0.
- auggierose 7y agoI am basically very happy with the betas, they have features I really rely on in the app I am currently working on; for example a custom UTI deriving from "com.apple.package" is now properly working on iCloud, although Dropbox on iOS doesn't work with it (yet?) but shows a big red minus sign for those files. What bugs me with Catalina is that my iMac Pro keeps rebooting when left unattended for an unpredictable but short time. I fixed that for now by using "Owly" which keeps it awake ...
- azinman2 7y agoTry caffinate, it’s built in.
- lelf 7y agoTypo. It’s ‘caffeinate’ caffeinate(8) — prevent the system from sleeping on behalf of a utility
- auggierose 7y agoOh nice! (it's caffeinate, btw :-)) Like Owly though, safe install from AppStore as well and then just sits in the menubar and lets me forget about it.
- nvrspyx 7y agoI personally use Amphetamine. https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12 https://apps.apple.com/us/app/amphetamine/id937984704?mt=12
- freehunter 7y agoI like Amphetamine (as far as, it does what I want it to do silently and I never have to think about it) but it bugs me that it's updated seemingly every week. Which means I need to close it, update it from the app store, then re-open it quite often. I'm not sure what benefit I'm getting from these constant updates.
- STRiDEX 7y ago
- ing33k 7y agorunning catalina since 3 days. Already loving it !
- nothis 7y agoFor a while, now, I get these warnings that 32bit programs will soon be unsupported in macOS. Is this the release where they drop support?
- arthurfm 7y agoYes. https://medium.com/@hammen/significant-changes-in-macos-10-15-catalina-of-interest-to-mac-admins-fbc3865c055e https://medium.com/@hammen/significant-changes-in-macos-10-1... 11. As expected and previously announced, support for 32-bit processes/i386 architectures has been removed. Printer drivers are also deprecated in Catalina. A future version of macOS will remove support for them completely. 24. “lpadmin: Printer drivers are deprecated and will stop working in a future version of CUPS”. man lpadmin on a macOS Catalina system for more details. It seems that Apple wants admins to move from lpd/smb/socket (JetDirect) to AirPrint.
- jchb 7y agoPrinters supporting AirPrint: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201311 https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT201311 (it is a loooong list, basically any printer designed since 2010).
- scarface74 7y agoI would assume that there would be a lot of professional printers that don’t support AirPrint.
- Mister_Snuggles 7y agoI have an old-ish laser printer (purchased in 2005 or so) which works fine, I really don't want to replace it because of an OS upgrade. My dad's got an even older laser printer (purchased probably in the early 1990s) which also works fine, I don't think he's going to want to replace it either. Hopefully by "printer drivers" they mean "printer manufacturer supplied drivers" and not "all drivers that aren't AirPrint". My printer uses a driver that's built in to MacOS, hopefully it can continue to do so.
- wincy 7y agoMy iPhone 6 Plus force upgraded itself to iOS 12 several months ago when I had to restore my phone. Unfortunately, my Apple Watch Series 0 or whatever you’ll call it only works with iOS 11. And now I won’t be able to upgrade my 6 Plus. So my two old devices will permanently and unnecessarily be incompatible with one another forever, through no action of my own (there was no way to avoid the iOS 12 “upgrade”). Both will permanently be in the past, but one major version away from compatibility. It’s pretty frustrating.
- lpgauth 7y agoYou can downgrade your phone software... quick google should show you how.
- okanesen 7y agoNo, you can’t because apple isn’t signing old versions of iOS anymore.
- SlowRobotAhead 7y agoHow are IOS11 and IOS12 “unnecessarily incompatible”? What major features will no longer work between them?
- xattt 7y agoHe’s unable to use his Series 0 watch.
- skinnymuch 7y agoExcept that seems unlikely and everyone else is saying it does work.
- phonon 7y agoIt should work. Are you using WatchOS 4.3.2?
- sirn 7y ago
- mark_l_watson 7y agoI updated to all three betas last week. I have been submitting suggestions and bug reports to Apple and one app company, but by and large I am enjoying all three betas. I especially like the desktop mode in iPad 13 beta Safari.
- tyingq 7y agoTitle could use a comma or "and" before macOS.
- sys_64738 7y agoApple should reset the Mac OS X clock back to the Snow Leopard 10.6.8 source tree. Toss everything else away.
- cudacurious 7y agoHas anyone tried Catalina with an Nvidia eGPU?
- nvrspyx 7y agoNvidia is still not supported. Probably not anytime soon either.