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"No Botox, no breast enhancements, anything like that. I made it very clear to everybody who came and their agents. But there were a couple of times when we [ag

by harry8 7y ago

"No Botox, no breast enhancements, anything like that. I made it very clear to everybody who came and their agents. But there were a couple of times when we [agreed to use] somebody and their agents actually made them go out and get breast enhancements. " Hollywood is vile. "Let us mutilate you because you have a dream that will otherwise die." Yeah they're all adults. It's still vile.

bostik 7y ago
> Hollywood is vile. "Let us mutilate you because you have a dream that will otherwise die." If there was a way to condense that one to just a few words, it would make one hell of a T-shirt slogan.
- cgio 7y ago
  If you don’t wake up, the dream never dies. Or Body chop, dream shop.
- fallingfrog 7y ago
  Maybe: Body and soul Bought and sold
- fallingfrog 7y ago
  I dream of a bigger cage And a lovely lash to teach me The secret pleasures of the age To learn to love The broken dove And the promise of A garden where no regret can reach me Sorry that’s too big for a t shirt
tempguy9999 7y ago
This is a very good point, and I'd like to make a lesser one. For some reason bigger breasts are considered better by the fashion industry and, err, some scummy agents, but as a hetero male I don't find them attractive at all, and talking to other guys I find much the same view in a majority of them (not a big sample thought). Seems a caricatured femininity has taken over the real thing (and not just in men's minds!) and I never hear it questioned. Also large boobs hurt. A girl I know in her early twenties has plenty of, and she's considering breast reduction surgery because of back problems. To be clear here, the issue is not about breasts but stereotypes coming to dominate without question, at a human cost. (and in a british court I can imagine a case might be construed against those shitty agents for assault)
- bobcostas55 7y ago
  >For some reason bigger breasts are considered better by the fashion industry A momentary look at any catwalk would disabuse you of this notion.
  - tempguy9999 7y ago
    That is an interesting point I missed, thanks. I still hold the fashion industry pushes big boobs, but yes, I accept this as an exception.
- onemoresoop 7y ago
  Theres a similar fashion for males to bulk up their bodies to unhealthy and exagerated sizes in gyms. I don’t know one woman who finds that attractive, and yet insecure men go for it thinking the’d me more attractive. And theres even the implant version where one can implant a 6 pack abdominals made of silicone.
  - tempguy9999 7y ago
    With respect I believe that's a completely different thing. In the case discussed the pressure to boob-up was external; the agents and fashion perception (bobcostas55's comment notwithstanding). With bodybuilders it's AFAIK internal pressure, a misperception of themselves. I knew a bodybuilder once (2 PhD's, smart guy) who said that you had to be bigger, that you could never be too big. And he understood clearly it was driven by a sense of inadequacy. > I don’t know one woman who finds that attractive I do know a very few, but generally yes. When I was younger I just assumed women loved it until I heard a female mate of mine describing large muscles as 'disgusting'. Bit of an eye-opener, that! > even the implant version ugh.

by harry8 7y ago

bostik 7y ago

> Hollywood is vile. "Let us mutilate you because you have a dream that will otherwise die." If there was a way to condense that one to just a few words, it would make one hell of a T-shirt slogan.

cgio 7y ago
If you don’t wake up, the dream never dies. Or Body chop, dream shop.
fallingfrog 7y ago
Maybe: Body and soul Bought and sold
fallingfrog 7y ago
I dream of a bigger cage And a lovely lash to teach me The secret pleasures of the age To learn to love The broken dove And the promise of A garden where no regret can reach me Sorry that’s too big for a t shirt

tempguy9999 7y ago

This is a very good point, and I'd like to make a lesser one. For some reason bigger breasts are considered better by the fashion industry and, err, some scummy agents, but as a hetero male I don't find them attractive at all, and talking to other guys I find much the same view in a majority of them (not a big sample thought). Seems a caricatured femininity has taken over the real thing (and not just in men's minds!) and I never hear it questioned. Also large boobs hurt. A girl I know in her early twenties has plenty of, and she's considering breast reduction surgery because of back problems. To be clear here, the issue is not about breasts but stereotypes coming to dominate without question, at a human cost. (and in a british court I can imagine a case might be construed against those shitty agents for assault)

bobcostas55 7y ago
>For some reason bigger breasts are considered better by the fashion industry A momentary look at any catwalk would disabuse you of this notion.
- tempguy9999 7y ago
  That is an interesting point I missed, thanks. I still hold the fashion industry pushes big boobs, but yes, I accept this as an exception.
onemoresoop 7y ago
Theres a similar fashion for males to bulk up their bodies to unhealthy and exagerated sizes in gyms. I don’t know one woman who finds that attractive, and yet insecure men go for it thinking the’d me more attractive. And theres even the implant version where one can implant a 6 pack abdominals made of silicone.
- tempguy9999 7y ago
  With respect I believe that's a completely different thing. In the case discussed the pressure to boob-up was external; the agents and fashion perception (bobcostas55's comment notwithstanding). With bodybuilders it's AFAIK internal pressure, a misperception of themselves. I knew a bodybuilder once (2 PhD's, smart guy) who said that you had to be bigger, that you could never be too big. And he understood clearly it was driven by a sense of inadequacy. > I don’t know one woman who finds that attractive I do know a very few, but generally yes. When I was younger I just assumed women loved it until I heard a female mate of mine describing large muscles as 'disgusting'. Bit of an eye-opener, that! > even the implant version ugh.