Are you just leaving out the cost of building the Fab...? The whole reason it was a joint venture in the first place was to try to soften the up front investme

Are you just leaving out the cost of building the Fab...? The whole reason it was a joint venture in the first place was to try to soften the up front investment for both companies. That's ignoring the R&D dollars on 3D and/stacking. If you think that's also easy, why were micron and intel over a year behind Samsung? It wasn't by choice.