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Temperatures in France cross 45°C threshold for first time since records began
- Fellshard 7y ago*first time ever _during the period in which temperatures have been recorded in France._ It seems pithy to focus on that, but implicitly hiding scope of things that have only been actively measured for centuries at most in order to use hyperbolic language such as 'ever' is /only/ used to drive fervor for a cause, and needs to be more reasonably grounded in order to draw a broader consensus. (Also, no quicker way to get yourself downvoted than stating anything that could be construed as being climate change skepticism. This criticism regards use of precise language, not climate change.)
- srfilipek 7y agoA reasonable person would understand that this is within the context of modern history. It's common knowledge (grade school level?) that the earth was once much, much hotter (and at other times colder) than it is today.
- bdamm 7y agoIt’s obviously implied. The temperature is very noteworthy and the headline writer’s lack of space for more specificity is a distraction.
- x3ro 7y agoYeah nothing to see here, just another historical extreme heat-wave hitting an entire continent. How dare they suggest this isn't ordinary. /s
- Fellshard 7y agoSuggesting something is not ordinary is not the same as using hyperbolic language. Conflating the two is very unwise.
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago> Suggesting something is not ordinary is not the same as using hyperbolic language If something isn't ordinary it is, by definition, extraordinary. Using hyperbole to highlight the extraordinary in a way that no reasonable person would misunderstand has rhetorical heritage going back to Socrates.
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago> have only been actively measured for centuries at most We have reliable ways of estimating past temperatures. Gas from ice cores, temperature-influenced mineral formation, et cetera. Many of these methods are more accurate than thermometers from only a century ago.
- Fellshard 7y agoObjectively prove reliability and get back to me.
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago> Objectively prove reliability and get back to me Metrology and geology are established scientific fields. I'll start you off with estimating temperature based on carbonate composition [1]. (It's not the most accurate method. But it's easy to understand.) [1] https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/schmidt_01/ https://www.giss.nasa.gov/research/briefs/schmidt_01/
- adrianN 7y agoObjectively prove that the Earth wasn't created last Thursday and get back to me.
- Fellshard 7y agoI have a correspondence written by another human being making observations from that Wednesday, during which they lived and experienced things. Therefore we can be fairly certain the Earth existed on Thursday as well. We cannot say the same for retroactive, presumed histories, the assumption of which constrains the possible effects that could generate the current-day results we measure.
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago> correspondence written by another human being making observations from that Wednesday This is anecdote, not objective evidence.
- abstractbarista 7y agoA shame people push down this comment because they don't like it. It is rational and true. It is also rational and likely true that these temps have happened in the recent past - say within the last 5000 years. Of course it was much hotter a really long time ago, as others have pointed out. But that fails to contradict the validity of this comment. You can believe in climate change and be skeptical of the wording around it.
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago> It is also rational and likely true that these temps have happened in the recent past - say within the last 5000 years There is zero evidence for the hypothesis that Paris was this hot at any time in the last 10,000 years. There is a lot of evidence for maximum annual temperatures in Paris over every other stage of the Holocene being lower. It is thus not a rational view to hold in light of the preponderance of evidence. (It is fair to search for counter-evidence, but not to reject the claim.)
- abstractbarista 7y agoWhere is this evidence? We don't have exact recordings that far back. Further thought: All it requires for the title to be falsified is a single oddly hot day to have occured say 4725 years ago. There's never going to be evidence with sufficient resolution to catch that. It seems quite plausible that we're cranking up temps recently. But why do so many fervently defend a rather disingenuous title?
- JumpCrisscross 7y ago> We don't have exact recordings that far back We don't have exact recordings of anything. Certain minerals form differently depending on ambient temperatures. For area temperature estimation, these methods are more precise than most thermometers.
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- ywain 7y agoIt's literally the first sentence of the article: > Temperatures in France crossed the 45 Celsius threshold for the first time _since records began_ on Friday.
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- tarr11 7y ago45c = 113f
- Asmod4n 7y agoThat's desert like hot, holy shit.
- baud147258 7y agoI've been hearing about the heatwave since last week, but it's been bearable so far in Paris, helped by a constant wind when outside (and HVAC in the office). Also I think Paris is not getting the worst of the heat, but I've not checked.
- TremendousJudge 7y agoHow's the AC situation there? When I went to Europe last year I found it rare for a home to have air conditioning (extremely commonplace here in southern South America where I'm from)
- maxxxxx 7y agoIn Germany almost nobody has AC. I would expect France to be the same.
- _ph_ 7y agoI am waiting for Amazon to deliver mine, it is supposed to arrive on Monday. It is expected to cool down a bit next week though.
- baud147258 7y agoI think I've ever seen AC in a flat or a home only one time and it was a portable air conditioner in a rental home in the South. But malls, offices and the like have AC. I've never been in South America, but I'd say that the average weather conditions in France (less heat and humidity) makes AC less important.
- jrimbault 7y agoI'm also in Paris, and just yesterday someone told me that, I replied : "made AC less important". Clearly things have changed in the last 15 years. Paris and London haven't adapted yet to this change.
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- adrianN 7y ago> According to the European Environment Agency, 2018 was among the three warmest years on record in Europe. The five hottest summers in Germany since we have reliable temperature records have been 2008, 2010, 2003, 2016 and 2002. This year also also going strong already.
- supercall 7y agoClimate crisis
- tomhoward 7y agoI'm an Australian taking a short European getaway. We're currently in northern Italy - Veneto region. Holy crap it's hot. High 30s every day, and perhaps because the towns consist of stone streets and buildings, and perhaps because there's not much wind, but it feels much hotter than the equivalent temperatures we're used to in summer at home. (Edit: Others have pointed out humidity would be a factor too - perhaps the biggest. That may be the case, though at around 50%, it's not as humid as I've experienced elsewhere, including in Australia at times.) We're heading to southern France next week, and the forecasts suggest the heat wave will still be in force then. I mean, no complaints, we're feeling lucky to be here and are still having a great time, but boy, this is not what you expect in Europe.
- hutzlibu 7y agoSo come to the north then ... (also, australia has usually much lower air humidity, so it does not feel as hot)
- jddj 7y agoAustralia is quite a long place, north to south. A not-insignificant part of it is in the tropics. Most of coastal southeast Queensland can expect 70% humidity in Feb/March. Venturing north in summer and you're into 30C+ temperatures despite heavy rain most days. That said, dew points would probably provide a better comparison.
- hutzlibu 7y agoI am aware of that and have been there. Still, on average (I said "usually") australia is much much drier than europe, even southern europe.
- davidw 7y agoIt's HUMID in the Veneto - that's what does it. BTW, if you want to get out and see some smaller towns: https://blog.therealitaly.com/2008/09/26/visiting-the-veneto-monselice-este-and-montagnana/ https://blog.therealitaly.com/2008/09/26/visiting-the-veneto... https://blog.therealitaly.com/2015/01/08/pellestrina/ https://blog.therealitaly.com/2015/01/08/pellestrina/ And feel free to hit me up for any other suggestions and ideas; I lived in Padova for a number of years.
- vinayakkulkarni 7y agoLol.. That's the normal temperature during summer in India.
- PedroBatista 7y agoThis is in France, so it's not normal.
- kitten_smuggler 7y agoIf this is happening in France, then you can expect India to see similar temperature anomalies in the future. Not much to laugh at really.
- neffy 7y agoThe future was two weeks ago - 50+ degrees Celsius: https://phys.org/news/2019-06-india-heatwave-temperatures-celsius.html https://phys.org/news/2019-06-india-heatwave-temperatures-ce... The problem isn´t just that humans can´t breathe underwater. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1cMnM-UJ5U https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M1cMnM-UJ5U
- jandrese 7y agoWell, historical normal highs in Paris this time of year are around 21-24. Mumbai would have expected to see temperatures in the 31-33 range, so if Paris is seeing 45 then Mumbai might expect to see 55. Of course weather is complicated and nonuniform, but this does give a sense of what areas of the world might no longer be inhabitable due to climate change. The worst part is that several of our biggest cities are in climates that are already quite warm on average. A lot of people live in Southeast Asia.
- zzleeper 7y agohttps://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/world/its-horrid-india-roasts-under-heat-wave-with-temperatures-above-120-degrees/2019/06/05/bd713dea-877c-11e9-b1a8-716c9f3332ce_story.html%3foutputType=amp https://www.google.com/amp/s/beta.washingtonpost.com/world/i... As you said, India is way more fucked Than Europe. 50± c is more than enough to kill people and seriously disrupt economies
- tomalpha 7y agohttps://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48795264 https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-48795264 has a map of the worst affected areas
- open-source-ux 7y agoThis is from 2018 but has good advice on what to do during a heatwave and how our bodies react Why some people suffer during heatwaves: https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2018/07/23/why-some-people-suffer-during-heatwaves/ https://publichealthmatters.blog.gov.uk/2018/07/23/why-some-...
- Scarblac 7y agoFor Americans: this village in the south of France is at about 43.8 degrees north latitude, about the same latitude as the Great Lakes.
- lettergram 7y agoI mean... having grown up in the Great Lakes region (Chicago). Summer is always 30C (85F) to 41C (105F) with 50% to 100% humidity and little wind some days. We also get down to -30C (-20F) with high winds in the winter. Welcome to the Midwest! That being said, surprised this is happening in France. I recommend no one move to a place like this for the weather...
- madaxe_again 7y agoYes, but you have air conditioning in Chicago, and can pretty much live your life without stepping out into the swamp/blizzard. Because this weather is unusual here, very few people have air con, so there isn’t much escape short of standing under a cold shower.
- Parcle 7y agoI don't think he was implying that the situation in France isn't bad. He was just correcting the idea of The Great Lakes having cool summers.
- bytematic 7y agoIs this true of offices or other businesses in Europe as well?
- madaxe_again 7y agoMost, yes. Plenty of shops are air conditioned, but unless you’re in a big modern office in a big city, air conditioning is unlikely. Ours used to turn into a sweat-box in the summer - couldn’t install air conditioning even had we wanted to. Up until recent years, the reality has been that it just hasn’t been necessary - you might have had a few days a year when you wished you had it.
- akgerber 7y agoI spent summer 2018 biking across Europe & everywhere I went, from Spain to Scotland, was much hotter than the climate data I looked up on Wikipedia prepared me for. It definitely felt like the climate had tangibly changed— especially if the same thing seems to be repeating this year. I guess everyone in Europe will be moving towards installing air conditioners, and they'll need to add peaker plants to power them on hot summer afternoons. Hopefully solar & storage will be cheap enough that it isn't too bad for the climate.
- jacquesm 7y agoThe cruel bit here is that installing air conditioners substantially increases the per-capita carbon footprint which in turn will lead to a further greenhouse effect. It's a positive feedback loop with many components.
- baq 7y agoone saving grace is that if you couple AC with photovoltaics, you provide at least some of that power at the point of use. not much and the upfront cost is still high, but at least it's an option.
- ijpoijpoihpiuoh 7y agoMaybe. If the average winter temperatures go up, the air conditioning will be at least partially offset by lower heating costs. Of course, there are also theories of global climate change where both the high and low extremes will increase, in which case there's a double-whammy effect.
- wongarsu 7y ago45°C in the desert or in the arid climate of the middle east is very bearable. 45°C in Europe is so terrible because of our high humidity. The more humid it is the less effective sweating is, and when the outside temperature is above ~37°C sweat is the only way we can cool our body to stay alive.
- mytailorisrich 7y agoThe south of France is dry and the area where these records are broken is semi arid in summer. Which is good because it would be lethal otherwise.
- madaxe_again 7y agoTrust me, it’s not dry here right now. It feels more like Panama than Perigord. We’ve been hovering around 38-40 at 80%+ humidity a few days now, and sweating isn’t effective. Thankfully the house has meter thick stone walls, so is as cool as a cave inside - but it’s unbearable outside. These conditions are lethal, for plenty - the very old and the very young tend to suffer the most.
- mytailorisrich 7y agoI grew in the area (Provence) and we didn't have air-con at home and in cars and we managed fine at 35C in summer. The thing is that traditional recipes are being lost. Like you mention, old houses have thick stone walls and shutter on windows: In summer you close the shutters and open the windows to create airflow and it's fresh. These days it's all glass patio doors and you cook... And then people install air con to compensate.
- simias 7y agoIn general you're right but that only works well in the long term if the temperature drops during the night to be able to keep the inside temperature cool enough for the day. Last summer in Provence when we had the heat wave that lasted for weeks you had to live in a grotto to get a fresh atmosphere.
- fillskills 7y agoClimate fluctuations are becoming more and more of an emergency. I was at a farmer conference and the main speaker spoke about how bad it is for them. Lots of crops are dying. Some GMO crops customized for this climate are able to survive if they are timed to perfection. We should be very worried about our food sources
- iagovar 7y agoSome farmers voice this same concern in Spain. They also have more extreme events destroying their fields (more hail, new insects). They seem worried, although it's true that I only have access to a little subset of them.
- lettergram 7y agoThat’s the real concern for me. I live in central Illinois, one of the best places to grow crops in the world (#1 soy producer and one of the top corn). This year the Farmers around me planted 4 weeks late. This was due to the non-stop rain, so they couldn’t till. That’s probably the scariest in terms of food production.
- VBprogrammer 7y ago> one of the best places to grow crops in the world (#1 soy producer and one of the top corn) This makes me quite sad - the idea of one of the best places in the world to grow crops being wasted on massive monocultures of these industrial crops.
- tryptophan 7y agoNot only that - we also subsidize these useless crops. For some reason we grow corn just to burn it in car fuel as an additive. Corn is so subsidized it also becomes cheaper to add high-fructose corn syrup to everything instead of sugar.
- henryfjordan 7y agoThe carbon in that corn comes from the air. If we all burned corn fuel instead of oil found in the ground we'd be a lot better off in terms of emissions.
- baud147258 7y ago"2015 European heatwave" I remember that one, it coincided with high air pollution: so much that one evening while leaving work, I realized that the Eiffel tower, quite close to the workplace, was barely visible in a haze of pollution. Also that heatwave, compared to the current, was made worse by a lack of wind, as far as I remember.
- blue_devil 7y ago>The year-to-date globally averaged land surface temperature was 2.68°F above the 20th century average of 42.8°F. This value was also the third highest for January–May in the [in the 1880–2019] record. source: https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/global-climate-201905 https://www.ncei.noaa.gov/news/global-climate-201905
- 013a 7y agoIts unfortunate how many people are using the word "Climate" in their replies here. When Trump says "Its cold out, global warming is fake" we rightly say that it's Weather, not Climate. That's what this is too. Global warming may be responsible to some degree, but we can't have it both ways. Language is important.
- jacquesm 7y agoThat's a dangerously mis-informed comment. Maximum and minimum temperatures over long periods of record are definitely climate, not weather.
- fooblitzky 7y agoClimate is generally defined as an average (of the maximums and minimums) over a 30 year period. So they're right in saying that this heatwave is weather, not climate. This summer will affect the calculated climate, sure, but it could be canceled out by an equally cold summer next year (unlikely, because the Earth is warming).
- jacquesm 7y ago"The general or average weather conditions of a certain region, including temperature, rainfall, and wind. On Earth, climate is most affected by latitude, the tilt of the Earth's axis, the movements of the Earth's wind belts, the difference in temperatures of land and sea, and topography." Extremes that shift are worrisome, outliers are not. So if the range of observed temperatures for a region is -25 to 39 and you get a year where it is 45 then that's a very worrisome development because it indicates the climate range has expanded. This as opposed a year with 38 which would still be an outlier but not a shift in range.
- johnchristopher 7y ago> This summer will affect the calculated climate, sure, but it could be canceled out by an equally cold summer next year (unlikely, because the Earth is warming). Why would a cold summer next year cancel out a hot summer ? If extremes swing so much it doesn't matter that the average stays the same.
- Farradfahren 7y agoWe started out as cave dwellers and to the caves we shall return.
- rwoodley 7y agoHow much are we all going to have to suffer before our governments actually take constructive action on the climate. Not to mention personal action as well.
- starbugs 7y agoA lot. Even if we start now, it will be a long time before our actions have any effect. And since we don't start now, and probably won't soon, again, a lot I'm afraid.
- WhompingWindows 7y agoOur actions are just going to slightly reduce the rate at which things get worse. No matter how much energy transition we do in the developed world, things will continue to worsen. Even if we outright banned all combustion overnight, things would still get hotter due to feedback loops, especially while the methane still exists for the next century or two.
- starbugs 7y agoDon't give up so quickly. Where there's a will there's a way. I am not saying that it is likely going to be pleasant (as indicated above), but I don't think it's the right thing to just call this unsolvable. It's certainly a huge project, maybe the biggest mankind ever faced, but still we need to tackle it, right? Having said that, I believe you are right that reducing CO2 output is most likely not going to cut it anymore (if that is even possible at all). But there might be other ways to slowly reduce the carbon levels in the atmosphere. Whether it's possible to do something short term (effective within decades), yes, I also highly doubt that.
- johnchristopher 7y ago> Don't give up so quickly. Some of use have been screaming about the bloody thing for 30 years. Now the car is crashing into the wall. It's too late to steer right or left. Bracing for impact is the best we can do. > but I don't think it's the right thing to just call this unsolvable. Making our peace with what could have been is often the only way to salvage what can be and prepare for real-world scenario, aka worst-case scenario regarding climate change.
- linux_devil 7y agoThis will impact the tourism industry to some extent and also high time for governments across the world to take positive steps in the same direction as this will eventually affect all of us. I stay in India and recent news related to water scarcity across cities are trending which is not usual.
- AcerbicZero 7y agoEdit: My bad, nevermind.
- rcMgD2BwE72F 7y agoHell no! Wars will be all over the place long before your pseudo "climate engineering" will mitigate global warming – and long before we will start bearing the unforeseen consequences of your apprentice sorcery. Wars will impact individual behaviors in big ways – for bad, obviously. At that point, you'll certainly realize that human beings can do collective things for good, too. Politics matters, always (like it or not). There really is no point to wait for war to try and avoid it.
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- baq 7y agothis is what the oil industry in USA had to say about CO2 in 1980: CLIMATE MODELING - CONCLUSIONS LIKELY IMPACTS 1C RISE (2005) : BARELY NOTICEABLE 2.5C RISE (2038) : MAJOR ECONOMIC CONSEQUENCES, STRONG REGIONAL DEPENDENCE 5C RISE (2067) : GLOBALLY CATASTROPHIC EFFECTS https://insideclimatenews.org/sites/default/files/documents/AQ-9%20Task%20Force%20Meeting%20%281980%29.pdf https://insideclimatenews.org/sites/default/files/documents/... just saying
- ulfw 7y agoAnd they did shit all about it
- JamesLefrere 7y agoThat's not quite fair, they funded the climate denial movement.
- hedora 7y agoFrom the report: PRESENT DAY SIGNIFICANCE OF THE IMPACT DEPENDS STRONGLY ON CHOICE OF A FUTURE DISCOUNTING FACTOR. I guess we know what sort of discounting factor they applied.
- hedora 7y agoOn the last page. Maybe they should have led with this: A 2.5C RISE BRINGS WORLD ECONOMIC GROWTH TO A HALT CA. 2025.
- mooseburger 7y agoSuppose the US oil industry had not engaged in science denial then. Does this somehow mean that the rest of the world's emissions would now be at the level they need to be?
- consumer451 7y agoAssuming that this document is authentic and the projections are valid, how are you personally dealing with this information?
- bayareanative 7y agoSpain and the south of France will be bad. And, Spain is already desertifying like crazy and climate models show it's screwed long-term. I would expect climate refugees leaving the Iberian peninsula in greater numbers soon, farmers in Spain are already leaving (I saw a docu by Journeyman Pictures on Spanish olive orchards dying and being abandoned).
- logronoide 7y agoClimate refugees leaving Spain? That must be the reason why retired Europeans buy a house in Spanish coasts... Yes, climate change is impacting how we live in Spain... but please don’t underestimate how humans can adapt and modify our environment... we have been doing it here for 2500 years. Romans digging to extract gold, Kings cutting forest to build ships (and today are deserts), seas of plastic nowadays to feed Europe of vegetables all seasons... Even under a heavy heat wave like this, the impact will be much higher in other countries; because we are already use to it. The news about France are more scary than Spain’s.
- mspnp 7y agoI live in the south of Spain and I've never seen or heard of anything like that. Please get off the news, it's bad for you.
- abstractbarista 7y agoGlad to see the title was edited to be more correct and less sensationalized.
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- NeonTiger1992 7y agoMy girlfriend's family are visiting relatives in France at the moment. They've been going for the best part of 20 years and they cannot believe the temperature. It's quite scary. Even in the UK, it's been unnaturally warm for most of this year and there were times in February and March where it was unseasonably temperate.
- chewz 7y agoI do not miss cold, rainy summers of my youth and failed crops. The summers in Central Europe are getting pleasantly mediterranean. Everything blossoms and ripes early. People stay at home instead of going to Spain for holidays. Agriculture is booming. Outdoor cafes and restaurants grow around every corner. Plus since yesterday temperatures suddenly dropped from 34C to 22C with pleasant, fresh breeze. Still sunny.
- 40acres 7y agoTruly hope that those in the region can stay safe, as mentioned the last heat wave of this magnitude in Europe killed thousands. That being said: I'm taking a mental note to purchase some 2019 vintage, the heat must do wonders for the grapes.
- WhompingWindows 7y agoThe heat does wonders if the proper variety of grape is planted in the proper place. If you've got chardonnay grapes in cabernet climate, you're going to have a bad time.
- throwawayvvvv 7y agoI’ve come to the conclusion that the deliberate ignorance of climate change/greenhouse effect/global warming is being fueled by deep-pockets in the fossil fuel industry, who are hacking the current weaknesses in democracies to sow doubt and confusion, and to sap political will (just as other hostile groupings are doing). The GFC also happened just as schemes like carbon pricing started taking hold, and they ended up losing momentum, which hasn’t been regained. The UK is a notable exception because Thatcher broke the coal industry for ideological reasons but I don’t think countries like the US will be able to take meaningful action. Heck, a major reason for Australia’s recent election outcome was the question of a major coal mine being granted permission to open. It’s either going to take major regional climate changes in some part of the world that the media cares about (Europe or North America) before political and public opinion shift decisively enough for meaningful action to take hold. By then it will probably be too late, except for those who are wealthy enough to buy their way into places which benefit from climate change. The rest of us will be left to fend for ourselves.
- Throwaaybbbbbb 7y agoI'm taking a mooc on climate change denial 1, and creating confusion is listed as one of the main reasons for denial. For example, when faced with scientific consensus about tobacco causing cancer, the industry invested a lot in creating doubt - doubt makes change stop or slow down. Personal biases are also a big factor. Eg: a conservative is more prone to believe global warming when presented an article about "free market solutions with nuclear power" than "government legislation against co2", which are just different takes on the same underlying truth. 1 https://courses.edx.org/courses/course-v1:UQx+Denial101x+1T2019/course/ https://courses.edx.org/courses/course-v1:UQx+Denial101x+1T2...
- greggeter 7y agoWeather's not climate, I'm told.
- amyjess 7y agoIn the last few months, I've been getting into dry wines (which I've avoided for most of my life but have been making up for list time on), so this really has me wondering what the effect of this on the wine industry is going to be ("this" = not just this specific incident but the whole pattern of climate change). I've particularly fallen in love with GSM wines from the Rhone, and I understand that these varieties thrive in warm climates, so could one of the silver linings of climate change be a fantastic 2019 vintage for Rhone appellations?
- saalweachter 7y agoBasically, photosynthesis doesn't work good above 40C. Plants stop making sugars and start consuming them instead. This is unfortunate for us, because agriculture is basically the art of convincing plants to store as many extra calories as possible. So there's a major difference between "warm" and "hot" climates.
- amyjess 7y agoThanks for the information!
- yeahitslikethat 7y agoDeath Valley was much cooler this summer and it was raining.
- 8bitsrule 7y agoI grew up in a house with a basement with concrete walls. When I complained about the summer heat, I always heard: 'Basement!!' Makes me wonder if heat waves (or cold waves) were the cause of most of the world's cave paintings. Or the underground cities of the Middle East.
- JohnTHaller 7y agoWhen higher temperatures have you down, just remember the conclusion on the final page of a buried 1980 report on climate change from the American Petroleum Institute: "At a 3% per anum growth rate of CO₂, a 2.5°C rise brings world economic growth to a halt in about 2025"
- boyadjian 7y agoI live in France near Paris, and I can tell you it's very hot down here. I did not go to work today ( I work only 4 days a week), and I had a headache all through the day. I had an appointment in town, that I cancelled because it was too hot.
- downrightmike 7y agoIf the US Democratic National Committee hadn't rigged the last election for Hillary, we'd have Bernie Sanders who actually gives a shit about climate change and would do something about it. Hopefully, the DNC won't pull a fast one again with Biden.
- gbear605 7y agoI preferred Bernie over Hillary too, but an article about France is really not the place to bring up three year old American politics.