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I think you're getting caught up in semantics here. If you want to tie this back to the 'actual racism' you're inferring, the prejudice of the US polity toward

I think you're getting caught up in semantics here. If you want to tie this back to the 'actual racism' you're inferring, the prejudice of the US polity towards the Iran people is what enables this policy to be enacted without any serious counter of moral concern from the populous. This actual racism is what permits the foreign policy, that ruins the lives of innocent people in far off countries. Further to that, if someone is okay with their government using this tactic on the innocent people of one foreign country vs another, you can tease apart their actual racism from nationalism.

espeed 7y ago
You're missing the point. The situation is much more nuanced than that. The Iranian people are not the target, the West wants to see their potential released. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20303107 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20303107
- RobertoG 7y ago
  I see, so, this game with Iran, is motivated because "the West wants to see their potential released". When is the turn of the Saudis? Is Iraq potential totally released already? And the grandparent is the one missing the point.. I want to recommend this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw Or the transcription: https://genius.com/General-wesley-clark-seven-countries-in-five-years-annotated https://genius.com/General-wesley-clark-seven-countries-in-f... Your definition of the West is pretty narrow, by the way, because everybody was OK with the deal until the USA decided unilaterally to break it.
  - espeed 7y ago
    Yes, PNAC's plan to dislodge the middle east was formed in the '90's. Their strategy and tactics included a series of kinetic wars that culminated with Syria, which they viewed as the most politically challenging situation. In contrast, Trump's strategy and tactics is based on economic force rather than kinetic wars. For economic force to work, the Iranian people must rise and act. Sanctions put the Iranian government into a weakened position and provide an opportunity for the people to act. The globalists don't believe in this strategy and will likely return to their strategy of kinetic war in the next administration if this doesn't work. The Iranian people are in a strong position to choose to act and prove the globalists wrong and kinetic wars are obsolete.
    - RobertoG 7y ago
      Just to be sure that I understand your position: your opinion is that the motivation behind all this is "to see their potential released"?
      - espeed 7y ago
        That's what open markets are all about.

espeed 7y ago

You're missing the point. The situation is much more nuanced than that. The Iranian people are not the target, the West wants to see their potential released. See https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20303107 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20303107

RobertoG 7y ago
I see, so, this game with Iran, is motivated because "the West wants to see their potential released". When is the turn of the Saudis? Is Iraq potential totally released already? And the grandparent is the one missing the point.. I want to recommend this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9RC1Mepk_Sw Or the transcription: https://genius.com/General-wesley-clark-seven-countries-in-five-years-annotated https://genius.com/General-wesley-clark-seven-countries-in-f... Your definition of the West is pretty narrow, by the way, because everybody was OK with the deal until the USA decided unilaterally to break it.
- espeed 7y ago
  Yes, PNAC's plan to dislodge the middle east was formed in the '90's. Their strategy and tactics included a series of kinetic wars that culminated with Syria, which they viewed as the most politically challenging situation. In contrast, Trump's strategy and tactics is based on economic force rather than kinetic wars. For economic force to work, the Iranian people must rise and act. Sanctions put the Iranian government into a weakened position and provide an opportunity for the people to act. The globalists don't believe in this strategy and will likely return to their strategy of kinetic war in the next administration if this doesn't work. The Iranian people are in a strong position to choose to act and prove the globalists wrong and kinetic wars are obsolete.
  - RobertoG 7y ago
    Just to be sure that I understand your position: your opinion is that the motivation behind all this is "to see their potential released"?
    - espeed 7y ago
      That's what open markets are all about.