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How would you propose to fix these; what system, according to you, would not have the same flaws as the current ones? There being an Us and a Them has been the

by Kirth 7y ago

How would you propose to fix these; what system, according to you, would not have the same flaws as the current ones? There being an Us and a Them has been the way forward for most of human civilization's existence.

chii 7y ago
> an Us and a Them has been the way forward for most of human civilization's existence. and so was slavery for a long time. Humanity needs to shed the tribalism from which it was forged. The current political paradigm requires that the politicians to divide and conquer, because most people aren't able to really see what's real and what's propaganda (which makes propaganda so effective). I don't have a solution to this problem unfortunately, but until this is solved, world climate change or inter-planetary colonization (or any other big endeavour) won't happen.
GordonS 7y ago
I think democracy is the least-worst option. But western countries are slowly-slowly creeping towards something else, something bordering on Orwellian. They hype the boogeyman de jour to the nth degree, using fear, uncertainty and doubt to control the populace and justify ever-more overarching anti-privacy, anti-encryption, and mass surveillance laws. It's at the point where it seems like most people now accept such sweeping controls, because of course it's all to keep them safe. They start wars based on faked evidence and the flimsiest of reasoning. War crimes are covered up and whistleblowers treated as the villans - non-western lives mean nothing to these people, who will do everything they can to grab more power, and enrich their coffers and that of their cronies. So, it's not just about the choice of political system, or "Them and Us" - it's also about the profiteering, corruption, cronyism and borderline megalomaniac that have somehow become normalised. Perhaps worst of all is the simply staggering hypocrisy.

by Kirth 7y ago

chii 7y ago

> an Us and a Them has been the way forward for most of human civilization's existence. and so was slavery for a long time. Humanity needs to shed the tribalism from which it was forged. The current political paradigm requires that the politicians to divide and conquer, because most people aren't able to really see what's real and what's propaganda (which makes propaganda so effective). I don't have a solution to this problem unfortunately, but until this is solved, world climate change or inter-planetary colonization (or any other big endeavour) won't happen.

GordonS 7y ago

I think democracy is the least-worst option. But western countries are slowly-slowly creeping towards something else, something bordering on Orwellian. They hype the boogeyman de jour to the nth degree, using fear, uncertainty and doubt to control the populace and justify ever-more overarching anti-privacy, anti-encryption, and mass surveillance laws. It's at the point where it seems like most people now accept such sweeping controls, because of course it's all to keep them safe. They start wars based on faked evidence and the flimsiest of reasoning. War crimes are covered up and whistleblowers treated as the villans - non-western lives mean nothing to these people, who will do everything they can to grab more power, and enrich their coffers and that of their cronies. So, it's not just about the choice of political system, or "Them and Us" - it's also about the profiteering, corruption, cronyism and borderline megalomaniac that have somehow become normalised. Perhaps worst of all is the simply staggering hypocrisy.