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I travel frequently for work. I like having a pro machine that is light and thin. I am okay with compromises, but understand that the target audience feels diff

by fumar 7y ago

I travel frequently for work. I like having a pro machine that is light and thin. I am okay with compromises, but understand that the target audience feels differently. I believe my Macbook Pro goes more places than before due to the compactness. That includes using python, photo, design, and general office work.

kingnothing 7y ago
That's why we were given the Air and 13" Pro.
- filoleg 7y ago
  >Air Weak specs and small screen. >13" pro Weaker specs and smaller screen than 15" Pro. I, for one, like my light and thin 15" Pro, though I understand not everyone will feel this way.
amluto 7y ago
Do you actually need the thin part or just the light part? I used to amuse people by demonstrating that my not-at-all-sexy ThinkPad weighed less than the original MacBook Air despite being a lot thicker and more powerful. The recent iPhones in particular bother me. What’s the point of being mostly thin if the camera lens sticks out and snags on things?
- reimertz 7y ago
  I had to block my Credit Card after it snagged on the lense and I dropped it without me noticing.
- fumar 7y ago
  Yes, I find the thinner the device the easier it is to pack. I should say overall volume. If I can travel for 1-2 days with a simple backpack, that is best case scenario. I keep trying to go 100% iPad Pro but its not quite there yet. I have taken plenty of day trips with just my macbook pro, no case or sleeve.
  - andybak 7y ago
    I've got a thin and light Mac that still has the ports.
- seanmcdirmid 7y ago
  A thin laptop is much easier to lug around, it has changed my wardrobe from a huge backpack to increasingly compact folios.
- endemic 7y ago
  They even hid the camera bump in promotional depictions.
darkpuma 7y ago
Few people travel frequently, but I bet as you go higher and higher up the food chain at Apple, you find more and more frequent travelers in the social circles of those Apple employees. This might explain the apparent overemphasis on thinness.
- sytelus 7y ago
  This is an interesting point. There are many CVP-levels who either rarely use their own product or only use parts that might be relevant for marketing demo. The result is that lot of other parts that is actually used by customers goes unimproved for years on. You can tell how good the leader of a product is by exploring its parts outside of marketing demos.
- el_benhameen 7y ago
  I don't travel for work very often, but as I work remotely I do work out of coffee shops and libraries fairly frequently in order to get some time outside of the house. I have a 2016 13" mbp and I find that its weight and form factor make me much more likely to go out and work elsewhere on a whim than when I had an older 13". I find the touch bar worse than useless, and while I like it when it works, I find the reliability of the keyboard extremely frustrating given that the machine cost over two grand. But the weight and form factor are things that I really do like about the machine.
sprafa 7y ago
I think it’s fine they made it this way but they still should have kept the ACTUAL Pro line - ie a more versatile machine. The new MacBook Pro’s just don’t cut it as much for professional applications as they used to (at least in my field of filmmaking/multimedia)
munchbunny 7y ago
I like the thin and light part, but the keyboard really makes it so that I would rather not do any work on it. I can see people getting used to it, but the tiny click just makes me doubt the reality of my typing. To be fair, it's not that bad, it's just that there are plenty of other choices that don't have the drawback. Personally, I've settled on the 13" Surface Book as my travel machine. A bit heavier, but plenty of power, great screen, fine battery life, GPU if you really need it, and a keyboard that I don't hate. Now with WSL2 it doesn't have its previous drawbacks as a dev environment either.
azernik 7y ago
I like thinness, and agree that small volume is generally important, but for the target audience it seems that Apple made too many compromises for that thinness.

by fumar 7y ago

kingnothing 7y ago

That's why we were given the Air and 13" Pro.

filoleg 7y ago
>Air Weak specs and small screen. >13" pro Weaker specs and smaller screen than 15" Pro. I, for one, like my light and thin 15" Pro, though I understand not everyone will feel this way.

amluto 7y ago

Do you actually need the thin part or just the light part? I used to amuse people by demonstrating that my not-at-all-sexy ThinkPad weighed less than the original MacBook Air despite being a lot thicker and more powerful. The recent iPhones in particular bother me. What’s the point of being mostly thin if the camera lens sticks out and snags on things?

reimertz 7y ago
I had to block my Credit Card after it snagged on the lense and I dropped it without me noticing.
fumar 7y ago
Yes, I find the thinner the device the easier it is to pack. I should say overall volume. If I can travel for 1-2 days with a simple backpack, that is best case scenario. I keep trying to go 100% iPad Pro but its not quite there yet. I have taken plenty of day trips with just my macbook pro, no case or sleeve.
- andybak 7y ago
  I've got a thin and light Mac that still has the ports.
seanmcdirmid 7y ago
A thin laptop is much easier to lug around, it has changed my wardrobe from a huge backpack to increasingly compact folios.
endemic 7y ago
They even hid the camera bump in promotional depictions.

darkpuma 7y ago

Few people travel frequently, but I bet as you go higher and higher up the food chain at Apple, you find more and more frequent travelers in the social circles of those Apple employees. This might explain the apparent overemphasis on thinness.

sytelus 7y ago
This is an interesting point. There are many CVP-levels who either rarely use their own product or only use parts that might be relevant for marketing demo. The result is that lot of other parts that is actually used by customers goes unimproved for years on. You can tell how good the leader of a product is by exploring its parts outside of marketing demos.
el_benhameen 7y ago
I don't travel for work very often, but as I work remotely I do work out of coffee shops and libraries fairly frequently in order to get some time outside of the house. I have a 2016 13" mbp and I find that its weight and form factor make me much more likely to go out and work elsewhere on a whim than when I had an older 13". I find the touch bar worse than useless, and while I like it when it works, I find the reliability of the keyboard extremely frustrating given that the machine cost over two grand. But the weight and form factor are things that I really do like about the machine.

sprafa 7y ago

I think it’s fine they made it this way but they still should have kept the ACTUAL Pro line - ie a more versatile machine. The new MacBook Pro’s just don’t cut it as much for professional applications as they used to (at least in my field of filmmaking/multimedia)

munchbunny 7y ago

I like the thin and light part, but the keyboard really makes it so that I would rather not do any work on it. I can see people getting used to it, but the tiny click just makes me doubt the reality of my typing. To be fair, it's not that bad, it's just that there are plenty of other choices that don't have the drawback. Personally, I've settled on the 13" Surface Book as my travel machine. A bit heavier, but plenty of power, great screen, fine battery life, GPU if you really need it, and a keyboard that I don't hate. Now with WSL2 it doesn't have its previous drawbacks as a dev environment either.

azernik 7y ago

I like thinness, and agree that small volume is generally important, but for the target audience it seems that Apple made too many compromises for that thinness.