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That seems low
by true_tuna 7y ago
That seems low
- ladberg 7y ago2030 isn't that far away. Do you think we could automate more than 2M jobs/year for the next 10 years? I kinda doubt it.
- oneplane 7y agoA lot of 'jobs' are just repetitive unschooled work. Hardly something you indefinitely need a human for.
- meruru 7y agoOn a long enough scale all jobs are.
- oneplane 7y agoTrue, but not the scale of a current human lifetime. Mostly because humans are not good with change (which is ironic because humans change everything around them). At the same time, at some point if all 'jobs' are no longer needed that would either mean humanity no longer exists or that scarcity no longer exists. In all other cases we'd still have some weird mix of what we have today and what we may have in the future.
- true_tuna 7y agoI work in robotics automation. The industry is poised for massive improvements in orchestration efficiency. Robotics currently does not take advantage of several known and trusted technologies. That alone will be huge. If we count the automation of driving jobs and efficiency improvements due to machine learning, I’d say the number is low.
- AareyBaba 7y agoWhat are these known and trusted technologies ?
- sitkack 7y agoFeedback for one, many industrial robots operate entirely open-loop. It was invented in 1927, so robotics has some catching up to do. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative-feedback_amplifier https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Negative-feedback_amplifier
- deelowe 7y agoCan you elaborate? I'm not seeing the connection.
- Nyandalized 7y agoRobotics could be much more efficient, require less maintenance and cause less havoc when malfunctioning. That alone reduces the amount of jobs required by a fair bit
- deelowe 7y agoWhat does this have to do with robots running "open loop?"
- Spooky23 7y agoAbsolutely. Government agencies i’m familiar with dropped about half of their processing and tabulation staff in the 90s. An agency with 12,000 employees in 1989 has 5,000 today. About another 50-75% will be gone in a decade or two. Most of the case management, IT, program staff and big legal shops are bloated with legacy paper processing and old business process. As that disappears, so will the jobs.
- yread 7y agoJust think of how many IT departments will disappear into the clouds
- randomdata 7y agoJob is a rather loaded term. How, exactly, are we defining it here? If your job was to weld two pieces of metal together and a robot now welds those pieces of metal together, but you transitioned to oversee the operation for quality control, strictly speaking, you lost your job to automation, but you didn't lose your 'job'. Will two million people per year give up tasks they currently do to robots? Probably. That doesn't seem unrealistic at all. Will two million more people per year find themselves in the unemployment line? Probably not. What's interesting is that (in the US), while manufacturing represented a larger share of the workforce in the past, the absolute number of people involved in manufacturing is relatively unchanged. The so-called decline of manufacturing is more a result of population growth than anything. Automation has allowed individuals to produce more, but it hasn't eliminated the people. The jobs that they do have no doubt changed considerably due to automation.
- GarrisonPrime 7y agoPerhaps because the majority of factory jobs have already disappeared. Not much left for the 'bots to replace.