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Actually he was lucky. Austrian law says the fine should be €10,000. It is not legal to own or to use a dashcam in Austria, like in a few other European countri
by mtw 7y ago
Actually he was lucky. Austrian law says the fine should be €10,000. It is not legal to own or to use a dashcam in Austria, like in a few other European countries
- oh_sigh 7y agoNot true. You can have a dash cam, but it has to be the kind that continuously overwrites its own data and only records when it detects an accident. You can also record based on your intent - if your intent is to, say, capture a scenic drive ,then you can do that. If your intent is to just capture the license plates of 1000s of other cars that pass you, you can't do that. These laws were changed in ~2018 in Austria.
- bosie 7y agoHow can a dashcam possibly detect an accident? Wouldn't that basically start recording after the fact and hence be mostly worthless?
- detaro 7y agoNo, they are allowed to have a buffer of last X minutes.
- oh_sigh 7y agoAccelerometers. How it works is there is something like a 5 minute, constantly overwriting video file. Once the accelerometers detects an abrupt deceleration, it determines an accident occurred and marks the previous 5 minute segment of video as read-only.
- romwell 7y agoThe dashcam will record into a, say, 5-minute buffer until the accelerometer registers a high value, at which point it starts writing into a new file (so the buffer becomes a permanent record of the 5 minutes prior to the incident). That's one way to implement it, one can come up with many others.
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- Scoundreller 7y agoDunno how well this will work if you need to claim that the pedestrian or cyclist just darted in front of you. But then again, maybe you don't want that kind of thing recorded.
- waisbrot 7y agoYes, if you hit a pedestrian and didn't brake, dash-cam footage of that would not be helpful to your court case.
- gtirloni 7y agoActually, the lack of a permanent recording (barring technical issues easily identified by forensics) would be very helpful... to the person you hit.
- zaarn 7y agoThere is almost always a button for manually triggering a recording.
- Scoundreller 7y agoIs that legal in Austria?
- zaarn 7y agoShouldn't be any more illegal than recording something with your cellphone (when not in the car) that you are interested with. I'm not quite certain about the legal code in australia but private recordings should generally be exempt from a lot of things.
- AnssiH 7y agoAccording to this 2013 news article it is "up to €10,000": https://helpv2.orf.at/stories/1717004/index.html https://helpv2.orf.at/stories/1717004/index.html
- Sargos 7y agoIt's good to be reminded of how many backwards laws there are in the world. Every country is a little bit fascist and insane and it makes you appreciate the good parts of your own country.
- tgsovlerkhgsel 7y agoUntil you realize the "receiving end" of that: It also means that in those "fascist" countries, you have a right not to be filmed, even in public.
- Sargos 7y agoThat's just a reductionist stance and when you follow that line of thinking to its conclusion then it would mean being illegal to record anything outside of your own house which is ridiculous because people need to film their kids going to the beach or take selfies in the mall. The negative side effects of prohibiting public photography greatly outweigh the positives.
- kabwj 7y agoI disagree. I don’t give a fuck that you want to take a selfie. Don’t include me in it, period. I have a right not to be photographed. Of course... different strokes. That’s why different countries exist.
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- tgsovlerkhgsel 7y agoSee... and most countries that recognize a right to privacy even in public have found a way to let people film their kids, while still making it illegal to point a private surveillance camera onto a public area (be it from your window or a car). There is a difference between taking a picture of your kid with someone in the background, and intentionally taking a picture of that person. And turns out that in practice, the law is able to distinguish those two even though technically they're quite similar.