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Meanwhile joe weed dealer on the corner got 20 years in prison. The next story we’ll be hearing about is how adderall and Ritalin made a generation of kids add

Meanwhile joe weed dealer on the corner got 20 years in prison. The next story we’ll be hearing about is how adderall and Ritalin made a generation of kids addicted to speed.

Nuzzerino 7y ago
> The next story we’ll be hearing about is how adderall and Ritalin made a generation of kids addicted to speed. Didn't it though?
- skyyler 7y ago
  Oh, it did.
Circuits 7y ago
Big Pharma: Mind keeping those records private? Judge: I would never... Big Pharma: 'Hands judge 2mil' Judge: ..consider anything but keeping them private. I meant to say. ^You don't believe this kind of thing happens, then your living in a dream world Alice: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/texas-judge-arrested-and-charged-bribery https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/texas-judge-arrested-and-char... https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/08/11/139536686/pa-judge-sentenced-to-28-years-in-massive-juvenile-justice-bribery-scandal https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/08/11/139536686... https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/feds-judge-admitted-taking-bribes-from-indicted-lobbyist/ https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/feds-judge-admitte... just to name a few.
- hvhsb 7y ago
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eecc 7y ago
Weed might also be an effective pain killer but we’ll never know. The Reactionaries - God bless them - have already decided there’s no good use for it, there’s no need for controlled experiments and all that scientific devilry
- nostrademons 7y ago
  We do know, and it is. Medical marijuana is legal in about half the states, and is commonly prescribed for cancer, glaucoma, and MS.
  - bluGill 7y ago
    It is legal and commonly prescribed, but that doesn't mean it is effective. Anecdotes say it is, and the enjoyment of being high is worth it to some but no doctor should prescribe it until the alternatives we know work have been tried and found to not work. Proper medical treatments goes through many rounds of studies to prove that it works and is safe (which is unlikely in this case: smoke causes cancer in general). If someone were to do a proper study (I'm not aware of any, but many countries don't have the US ban so I'd be shocked if none have been done) I'd change my position. For now it is a last resort though.
    - rufugee 7y ago
      until the alternatives we know work have been tried Oh, you mean the alternatives Big Pharma claims to be effective? Because as TFA shows, they can totally be trusted...
      - bluGill 7y ago
        Two wrongs do not make a right.
    - smileysteve 7y ago
      > until the alternatives we know work have been tried and found to not work. I mean, opioids clearly work; but they come at an extremely high in terms of addiction and risk of overdose. Morphine works; we just only prescribe it at EOL now because we know its so addictive it will kill. Where if cannabis or cbd have even an anecdotal placebo effect, it is not currently leading to high risk of overdose.
    - codyb 7y ago
      This seems to ignore the incredible numbers of testimonials from very sick patients who say marijuana improves their quality of life by reducing anxiety, and/or increasing appetite, and/or reducing pain with few long term side effects. It also conveniently ignores that you can ingest cannabinoids in a variety of methods besides smoking. And the fact that there are an absolute ton of “FDA Approved” products which have barely gone through any of the rigor you’ve talked about which is why there are all those commercials on TV about “have you or a loved one suffered acute bronchitis as a result of taking prophylactyse?” As well as the incredible lists of side effects even well studied drugs seem to have which is why all the other drug commercials end with “Side effects may include internal bleeding, gastrointestinal distress, ...”. All that being said, I’d love to see more research, why not?

Meanwhile joe weed dealer on the corner got 20 years in prison. The next story we’ll be hearing about is how adderall and Ritalin made a generation of kids addicted to speed.

Nuzzerino 7y ago

> The next story we’ll be hearing about is how adderall and Ritalin made a generation of kids addicted to speed. Didn't it though?

skyyler 7y ago
Oh, it did.

Circuits 7y ago

Big Pharma: Mind keeping those records private? Judge: I would never... Big Pharma: 'Hands judge 2mil' Judge: ..consider anything but keeping them private. I meant to say. ^You don't believe this kind of thing happens, then your living in a dream world Alice: https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/texas-judge-arrested-and-charged-bribery https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/texas-judge-arrested-and-char... https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/08/11/139536686/pa-judge-sentenced-to-28-years-in-massive-juvenile-justice-bribery-scandal https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2011/08/11/139536686... https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/feds-judge-admitted-taking-bribes-from-indicted-lobbyist/ https://www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/feds-judge-admitte... just to name a few.

hvhsb 7y ago
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eecc 7y ago

Weed might also be an effective pain killer but we’ll never know. The Reactionaries - God bless them - have already decided there’s no good use for it, there’s no need for controlled experiments and all that scientific devilry

nostrademons 7y ago
We do know, and it is. Medical marijuana is legal in about half the states, and is commonly prescribed for cancer, glaucoma, and MS.
- bluGill 7y ago
  It is legal and commonly prescribed, but that doesn't mean it is effective. Anecdotes say it is, and the enjoyment of being high is worth it to some but no doctor should prescribe it until the alternatives we know work have been tried and found to not work. Proper medical treatments goes through many rounds of studies to prove that it works and is safe (which is unlikely in this case: smoke causes cancer in general). If someone were to do a proper study (I'm not aware of any, but many countries don't have the US ban so I'd be shocked if none have been done) I'd change my position. For now it is a last resort though.
  - rufugee 7y ago
    until the alternatives we know work have been tried Oh, you mean the alternatives Big Pharma claims to be effective? Because as TFA shows, they can totally be trusted...
    - bluGill 7y ago
      Two wrongs do not make a right.
  - smileysteve 7y ago
    > until the alternatives we know work have been tried and found to not work. I mean, opioids clearly work; but they come at an extremely high in terms of addiction and risk of overdose. Morphine works; we just only prescribe it at EOL now because we know its so addictive it will kill. Where if cannabis or cbd have even an anecdotal placebo effect, it is not currently leading to high risk of overdose.
  - codyb 7y ago
    This seems to ignore the incredible numbers of testimonials from very sick patients who say marijuana improves their quality of life by reducing anxiety, and/or increasing appetite, and/or reducing pain with few long term side effects. It also conveniently ignores that you can ingest cannabinoids in a variety of methods besides smoking. And the fact that there are an absolute ton of “FDA Approved” products which have barely gone through any of the rigor you’ve talked about which is why there are all those commercials on TV about “have you or a loved one suffered acute bronchitis as a result of taking prophylactyse?” As well as the incredible lists of side effects even well studied drugs seem to have which is why all the other drug commercials end with “Side effects may include internal bleeding, gastrointestinal distress, ...”. All that being said, I’d love to see more research, why not?