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At probably a naive glance it seems related to anonymity. Would tying identity to online posts increase this trust? What if you had to insert your National ID C

by 0xfeba 7y ago

At probably a naive glance it seems related to anonymity. Would tying identity to online posts increase this trust? What if you had to insert your National ID Card to comment in some feedback forums? I remember YouTube tried this and failed due to pushback. What's the driver of this clickbait/instant gratification/hot take culture that's developing? Is it just ads?

0815test 7y ago
People on Facebook are posting with their real names, and much of the worst, most polarizing crap gets spread on there. Some people do post with their real names as a way of visibly holding themselves accountable for what they say, but it's something that really only makes sense as a voluntary choice.
- 0xfeba 7y ago
  True. Is it similar to "road rage" where people are safe and secure in their moving "castle", and freely criticize and yell at others without fear of consequences?
pjc50 7y ago
Some of the worst clickbait is published in national newspapers under a byline and photograph of the author. The Boris Johnson fiasco has got journalists openly saying "who are the people who called the police when they heard shouting and screaming next door? We need to find and expose them". Requiring ID means the culture war side with the best harassment capability can take over the space and decide who becomes the story and who gets made unsafe.
- josinalvo 7y ago
  > Boris Johnson fiasco Could you provide some context? > who are the people who called the police when they heard shouting and screaming next door? We need to find and expose them". Could you provide some links? (sorry, not doubt, truly uninformed)
ggggtez 7y ago
>Would tying identity to online posts increase this trust? No. People happily reshare fake news all day under their real names. If you don't recall, Facebook also requires "Real Names" and we saw how much that helps. The driver is human nature. The internet didn't invent the conspiracy theory, or the clickbait news article. That stuff existed almost since the first newspaper. False accusation is specifically called out in the 10 commandments. Lying and cheating is human nature and likely requires some checks in place when it gets to the point of harming others for your own profit.
president 7y ago
> What's the driver of this clickbait/instant gratification/hot take culture that's developing? Is it just ads? It's essentially a race-to-the-bottom situation. Media that don't employ clickbait will lose out to others that are making tons of money catering to instant gratification.
raxxorrax 7y ago
Since youtube tries to monetize ads, they would indeed be interested in your identity. Saying it is to prevent abuse is a pretext. People believing it would certainly have their trust be abused.
buboard 7y ago
I don't think so, because people should stop treating the internet as a private place. It really isnt, and the whole "we are real people with real names" is an illusion created by for-profit companies. I know that people desire safety by default, but they also have a very long history of trusting the wrong tyrants.

by 0xfeba 7y ago

0815test 7y ago

People on Facebook are posting with their real names, and much of the worst, most polarizing crap gets spread on there. Some people do post with their real names as a way of visibly holding themselves accountable for what they say, but it's something that really only makes sense as a voluntary choice.

0xfeba 7y ago
True. Is it similar to "road rage" where people are safe and secure in their moving "castle", and freely criticize and yell at others without fear of consequences?

pjc50 7y ago

Some of the worst clickbait is published in national newspapers under a byline and photograph of the author. The Boris Johnson fiasco has got journalists openly saying "who are the people who called the police when they heard shouting and screaming next door? We need to find and expose them". Requiring ID means the culture war side with the best harassment capability can take over the space and decide who becomes the story and who gets made unsafe.

josinalvo 7y ago
> Boris Johnson fiasco Could you provide some context? > who are the people who called the police when they heard shouting and screaming next door? We need to find and expose them". Could you provide some links? (sorry, not doubt, truly uninformed)

ggggtez 7y ago

>Would tying identity to online posts increase this trust? No. People happily reshare fake news all day under their real names. If you don't recall, Facebook also requires "Real Names" and we saw how much that helps. The driver is human nature. The internet didn't invent the conspiracy theory, or the clickbait news article. That stuff existed almost since the first newspaper. False accusation is specifically called out in the 10 commandments. Lying and cheating is human nature and likely requires some checks in place when it gets to the point of harming others for your own profit.

president 7y ago

> What's the driver of this clickbait/instant gratification/hot take culture that's developing? Is it just ads? It's essentially a race-to-the-bottom situation. Media that don't employ clickbait will lose out to others that are making tons of money catering to instant gratification.

raxxorrax 7y ago

Since youtube tries to monetize ads, they would indeed be interested in your identity. Saying it is to prevent abuse is a pretext. People believing it would certainly have their trust be abused.

buboard 7y ago

I don't think so, because people should stop treating the internet as a private place. It really isnt, and the whole "we are real people with real names" is an illusion created by for-profit companies. I know that people desire safety by default, but they also have a very long history of trusting the wrong tyrants.