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Immersive machine learning at Google

13 points by espeed 7y ago

appleflaxen 7y ago
This reads like a submarine http://paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://paulgraham.com/submarine.html why is it on the front page with zero comments?
- dang 7y ago
  > why is it on the front page with zero comments? Because people upvoted it and people didn't comment. This is not at all rare. Speaking of which, please don't post unsubstantive comments to HN, especially when a thread doesn't have any comments yet. Discussions are surprisingly sensitive to initial conditions.
- Y_Y 7y ago
  I agree with this. (However I know the mysterious hn algorithm does like to try out new articles on a small pile of readers before seeing if it should stick to the front page proper.) How much does it cost nowadays to get a ad-article on here anyway?
  - dang 7y ago
    > However I know the mysterious hn algorithm does like to try out new articles on a small pile of readers before seeing if it should stick to the front page proper HN's algorithm doesn't do that. What made you think it did? > How much does it cost nowadays to get a ad-article on here anyway? Hopefully infinity. I'm not aware of people getting away with this and we've put a ton of effort into preventing it. The voters, by the way, whose votes got this story on the front page have been good HN citizens for 9, 8, and 7 years respectively. If some ad manipulator got them to do that, that's a hell of an ad manipulator.
    - Y_Y 7y ago
      > HN's algorithm doesn't do that. What made you think it did? Good question. I think I must have read or misunderstood it in a other comment on here and said "that's plausible, must be true". I didn't mean to impugn the quality of moderation here, in fact I think it's generally excellent. The fact that this site has seems to have an influential and affluent readership means somebody must by at least trying to sell astroturf, even if they can't deliver.
      - dang 7y ago
        They certainly are. And it's possible that some are good enough to get past us—I suppose that would be a Rumsfeldian known unknown. But at least some are for sure not getting past us. And generally when users suggest that a post might have been astroturfed, when we look (which we always do), we almost always find normal behavior from established users. There's a lot of randomness in what gets traction on HN and the brain has plenty of opportunity to project patterns into it.
anindha 7y ago
How much does this type of training cost?

13 points by espeed 7y ago

This reads like a submarine http://paulgraham.com/submarine.html http://paulgraham.com/submarine.html why is it on the front page with zero comments?

dang 7y ago
> why is it on the front page with zero comments? Because people upvoted it and people didn't comment. This is not at all rare. Speaking of which, please don't post unsubstantive comments to HN, especially when a thread doesn't have any comments yet. Discussions are surprisingly sensitive to initial conditions.
Y_Y 7y ago
I agree with this. (However I know the mysterious hn algorithm does like to try out new articles on a small pile of readers before seeing if it should stick to the front page proper.) How much does it cost nowadays to get a ad-article on here anyway?
- dang 7y ago
  > However I know the mysterious hn algorithm does like to try out new articles on a small pile of readers before seeing if it should stick to the front page proper HN's algorithm doesn't do that. What made you think it did? > How much does it cost nowadays to get a ad-article on here anyway? Hopefully infinity. I'm not aware of people getting away with this and we've put a ton of effort into preventing it. The voters, by the way, whose votes got this story on the front page have been good HN citizens for 9, 8, and 7 years respectively. If some ad manipulator got them to do that, that's a hell of an ad manipulator.
  - Y_Y 7y ago
    > HN's algorithm doesn't do that. What made you think it did? Good question. I think I must have read or misunderstood it in a other comment on here and said "that's plausible, must be true". I didn't mean to impugn the quality of moderation here, in fact I think it's generally excellent. The fact that this site has seems to have an influential and affluent readership means somebody must by at least trying to sell astroturf, even if they can't deliver.
    - dang 7y ago
      They certainly are. And it's possible that some are good enough to get past us—I suppose that would be a Rumsfeldian known unknown. But at least some are for sure not getting past us. And generally when users suggest that a post might have been astroturfed, when we look (which we always do), we almost always find normal behavior from established users. There's a lot of randomness in what gets traction on HN and the brain has plenty of opportunity to project patterns into it.

anindha 7y ago

How much does this type of training cost?