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I want to respectfully challenge this - many people do still use those tools and still will. But the user experience in Slack is objectively better, especially

I want to respectfully challenge this - many people do still use those tools and still will. But the user experience in Slack is objectively better, especially with large rooms with frequent content (as the OP mentions). I lived in IRC in the late 90s and early 2000s. IRC is fantastic and open and federated. But if I want to get things done with a team, I'll pick Slack everytime.

terminalhealth 7y ago
Still, it is not worth $16B. It's straight forward existing ideas crowbarred into a modern webapp that really any 10-headed team of highly talented web programmers could come up with and implement within a month or so. So it is maybe worth 10 * $100 000 / 12 = $83 333, so it is overvalued by a factor of 192 000. Highly indicative of an economic bubble.
- buryat 7y ago
  > a modern webapp that really any 10-headed team of highly talented web programmers could come up with and implement within a month or so infamous dropbox comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224
  - terminalhealth 7y ago
    I know, valuation in tech is most often about reach, not so much about the technology itself. This raises the important question whether anything should be allowed to have as much reach.
Zenbit_UX 7y ago
Objectively better than the garbage the GP mentioned but objectively worse than Telegram. After using Telegram for work at my previous job, switching to slack now with a new company is jarring. Their absolute dogshit electron apps constantly hog system resources and take forever to load. Also Telegram is free and has a far better audio and video chat and again, free... I find it mind boggling companies pay for chat. Both discord and Telegram provide all the same features, incl bots and do so for free, what gives?
- solidasparagus 7y ago
  I haven't used Telegram much, but as far as I can tell, Telegram has almost none of the features I pointed out as the core strengths of Slack.

terminalhealth 7y ago

Still, it is not worth $16B. It's straight forward existing ideas crowbarred into a modern webapp that really any 10-headed team of highly talented web programmers could come up with and implement within a month or so. So it is maybe worth 10 * $100 000 / 12 = $83 333, so it is overvalued by a factor of 192 000. Highly indicative of an economic bubble.

buryat 7y ago
> a modern webapp that really any 10-headed team of highly talented web programmers could come up with and implement within a month or so infamous dropbox comment https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=9224
- terminalhealth 7y ago
  I know, valuation in tech is most often about reach, not so much about the technology itself. This raises the important question whether anything should be allowed to have as much reach.

Zenbit_UX 7y ago

Objectively better than the garbage the GP mentioned but objectively worse than Telegram. After using Telegram for work at my previous job, switching to slack now with a new company is jarring. Their absolute dogshit electron apps constantly hog system resources and take forever to load. Also Telegram is free and has a far better audio and video chat and again, free... I find it mind boggling companies pay for chat. Both discord and Telegram provide all the same features, incl bots and do so for free, what gives?

solidasparagus 7y ago
I haven't used Telegram much, but as far as I can tell, Telegram has almost none of the features I pointed out as the core strengths of Slack.