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It just occurred to me. We're in a very similar situation as Americans were 90-100 years ago when hearing about the extreme atrocities of the Nazis. Many didn't
by sdegutis 7y ago
It just occurred to me. We're in a very similar situation as Americans were 90-100 years ago when hearing about the extreme atrocities of the Nazis. Many didn't believe it, many believed it but didn't know what we could do about it. I wonder what we can do about these abominable practices we keep hearing about in China. I mean, what can we, individuals, do to help put an end to the constant stream of injustices there?
The obvious solution is to boycott Chinese merchandise and vote with our wallets. But will we be able to overcome the inconveniences it would cause us? Could enough of us actually go through with it collectively to make a dent?
- komali2 7y agoNorth Korea has been mass incarcerating and torturing its people in concentration camps for many decades now and America has done practically nothing about it. I've always wondered the same thing. Why Germany didn't get away with it, but North Korea does? My only guess is because Germany started invading all of Europe and posed a legitimate threat to American interests, whereas North Korea doesn't. Added bonus of defeating the Nazis is we freed everyone in concentration camps, but I guess that wasn't why we mobilized the American war machine. It'll take more than crimes against humanity.
- ceejayoz 7y agoHaving nukes, and a nearby country's capital in shelling range helps a bit.
- umvi 7y ago> North Korea has been mass incarcerating and torturing its people in concentration camps for many decades now and America has done practically nothing about it. North Korea is holding a gun to South Korea's head. America already fought the Korean War, what else can America do?
- komali2 7y ago> what else can America do? Go to war with North Korea. Germany was bombing London.
- umvi 7y agoIs going to war with North Korea worth losing South Korea (or at the very least Seoul)?
- komali2 7y agoIf South Korea is at actual threat of being lost in war, I believe North Korea would have already invaded. South Korea is an incredibly militarily powerful nation. What we are saying is "the loss of life in a war is not worth the freeing of people imprisoned and tortured in North Korea," which is fine to say, and pretty much my point.
- umvi 7y agoI'm just saying that in this particular case, starting a war with North Korea means (at the very least) an artillery bombardment of Seoul which has a population of 9M+. This is a virtually unblockable attack that would (optimistically) kill hundreds of thousands of innocent civilians. Worst case scenario, Seoul gets nuked and millions die. There are other ways to collapse a regime without that kind of collateral damage. The US is not in the best position to do it, however; China is.
- bazooka_penguin 7y agoStopping Germany was more of a happenstance. FDR favored Britain and had the US assist in favorable "trade" but only officially entered the war and combat because of the Japanese. Had the japanese weathered the oil and metal embargo without retaliation maybe the US wouldnt have joined the war effort
- swebs 7y agoNorth Korea is under the protecton of China. Going to war with North Korea means going to war with China as well. And China already has nuclear ICBMs.
- seanmcdirmid 7y agoChina doesn’t have enough missiles for MAD, and perhaps they can only reach the west coast with most of their arsenal (though maybe they have a few longer range ICBMs now). At any rate, China isn’t going to risk anhilation for the North Koreans, who are frenemies at best.
- b_tterc_p 7y agoRecall that America allowed Germany to start invading Europe, and may not have gotten involved outside of some supply chain assistance but for the fact that Japan literally attacked American soil first.
- b_tterc_p 7y agoVoting with your wallet doesn’t actually push these practices to stop. If anything a more desperate China is going to be more willing to do things we consider immoral.