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I would never ever ever ever trust PayPal, Spotify, Mastercard and the likes to manage my money. It simply sounds like lots and lots and lots of happy little "

I would never ever ever ever trust PayPal, Spotify, Mastercard and the likes to manage my money. It simply sounds like lots and lots and lots of happy little "accidents" and "bugs" waiting to happen for political opponents as they lose their livelihoods. The people who came up with the whole "Manifest Observable Behavior" and random "Suspended for Breach of Community Standards" violations have no place around anyone's money. It's not even related to protecting a specific political ideology, we can see daily how these companies treat users regardless of any specific belief or opinion on politics. I would rather not get / see anyone deplatformed from owning money should something like this become big.

drcode 7y ago
The important question isn't what you or I will do, but what the 90% of people will do who don't care about privacy/oligopolies.
- tastygreenapple 7y ago
  I'm sure they'll care once someone loses their zuccbuccs for saying "Men are trash".
  - WhiteOwlLion 7y ago
    Seems like having the right to be a jerk is important for financial independence.
  - Bakary 7y ago
    Isn't Facebook PR generally oriented towards placating the more SJW themes? Before the Cambridge Analytica stuff came to light, they were the establishment left's darling.
- omeid2 7y ago
  Won't take long for people to realize, unlike other "new" utilities like social media people, generally, have a reasonable grasp of the value of money and the risk of it, mostly because they have experienced it. relatively, very few people experience the wrong end of the technocratic-sanctions stick.
shrimp_emoji 7y ago
Manifest observable behavior is just an evidence-based way to determine breach of policy[0]. It's literally the most rational way to go about enforcing policy. Insofar as suspensions seem "random" because they're done by fast and loose algorithms (which are the only enforcement mechanism that scales), I agree though: that shit sucks, and it affects many sides. Many sides. When Zuckerberg was in front of Congress, he was repeatedly scolded by Congresspeople for not doing enough to remove bad stuff. He responded by saying that there's too much bad stuff for humans to keep track of, and that Facebook is working really hard on AI capable of handling it. Yay. 0: https://youtu.be/YmcK6GvgVPs?t=172 https://youtu.be/YmcK6GvgVPs?t=172
- beezischillin 7y ago
  PayPal keeps suspending accounts on a whim, also. Even before the politics vs Internet debate became a part of the zeitgeist, people pretty much daily woke up to find their accounts locked and their account balance lost forever. Stuff like that worries me because the political stu7is a new fad and might eventually pass but most of these companies play really fast and loose with their users lives.

drcode 7y ago

The important question isn't what you or I will do, but what the 90% of people will do who don't care about privacy/oligopolies.

tastygreenapple 7y ago
I'm sure they'll care once someone loses their zuccbuccs for saying "Men are trash".
- WhiteOwlLion 7y ago
  Seems like having the right to be a jerk is important for financial independence.
- Bakary 7y ago
  Isn't Facebook PR generally oriented towards placating the more SJW themes? Before the Cambridge Analytica stuff came to light, they were the establishment left's darling.
omeid2 7y ago
Won't take long for people to realize, unlike other "new" utilities like social media people, generally, have a reasonable grasp of the value of money and the risk of it, mostly because they have experienced it. relatively, very few people experience the wrong end of the technocratic-sanctions stick.

shrimp_emoji 7y ago

Manifest observable behavior is just an evidence-based way to determine breach of policy[0]. It's literally the most rational way to go about enforcing policy. Insofar as suspensions seem "random" because they're done by fast and loose algorithms (which are the only enforcement mechanism that scales), I agree though: that shit sucks, and it affects many sides. Many sides. When Zuckerberg was in front of Congress, he was repeatedly scolded by Congresspeople for not doing enough to remove bad stuff. He responded by saying that there's too much bad stuff for humans to keep track of, and that Facebook is working really hard on AI capable of handling it. Yay. 0: https://youtu.be/YmcK6GvgVPs?t=172 https://youtu.be/YmcK6GvgVPs?t=172

beezischillin 7y ago
PayPal keeps suspending accounts on a whim, also. Even before the politics vs Internet debate became a part of the zeitgeist, people pretty much daily woke up to find their accounts locked and their account balance lost forever. Stuff like that worries me because the political stu7is a new fad and might eventually pass but most of these companies play really fast and loose with their users lives.