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Looking at this from another country, I would expect nothing else except blow back. My first thought is are we dealing with idiots, a false flag, or trolls. If

Looking at this from another country, I would expect nothing else except blow back. My first thought is are we dealing with idiots, a false flag, or trolls. If this is where 'desperate measures' has led too, they are better off doing nothing. This sort of strike action isn't going to get the general population to vote green, but vote fascist.

wiz21c 7y ago
maybe it's time for eco-fascism ?
- slim 7y ago
  ecological concerns are still too technical to be popular. populists are not interested. so it's still not time. maybe when climate change becomes obvious to everybody
- adamcharnock 7y ago
  Neil Asher’s Owner Trilogy actually uses this as (part of) the basis of its plot.
- orbifold 7y ago
  That’s why the Green Party is so popular in Germany. Voters get to live out their authoritarian streak in a socially acceptable way. It’s not an accident they are now in power in one of the more conservative parts of Germany (Baden-Würtenberg).
  - samcday 7y ago
    Would it be better if we went back to the good old days where those with an authoritarian streak vote parties into power that like to oppress (and worse) their critics? Put differently, even if you disagree with the rhetoric of the German Green Party, surely you would agree that they're definitely not as bad as other certain parties that have come before in Germany? :)
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pbhjpbhj 7y ago
It seems pretty effective (that's not endorsement) if you're talking about a small local protest from another country. Maybe they're actually not idiots but just people you disagree with?
- stubish 7y ago
  I disagree with the methods, and am somewhat pissed off at how this will set back the cause. I see it harming climate change action, and I expect to see this small local protest used as a political tool by the right wing all over the place. I expect it to be used as an excuse for new laws and police powers in the UK at least, although with the ongoing brexit it might take a while.

wiz21c 7y ago

maybe it's time for eco-fascism ?

slim 7y ago
ecological concerns are still too technical to be popular. populists are not interested. so it's still not time. maybe when climate change becomes obvious to everybody
adamcharnock 7y ago
Neil Asher’s Owner Trilogy actually uses this as (part of) the basis of its plot.
orbifold 7y ago
That’s why the Green Party is so popular in Germany. Voters get to live out their authoritarian streak in a socially acceptable way. It’s not an accident they are now in power in one of the more conservative parts of Germany (Baden-Würtenberg).
- samcday 7y ago
  Would it be better if we went back to the good old days where those with an authoritarian streak vote parties into power that like to oppress (and worse) their critics? Put differently, even if you disagree with the rhetoric of the German Green Party, surely you would agree that they're definitely not as bad as other certain parties that have come before in Germany? :)
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pbhjpbhj 7y ago

It seems pretty effective (that's not endorsement) if you're talking about a small local protest from another country. Maybe they're actually not idiots but just people you disagree with?

stubish 7y ago
I disagree with the methods, and am somewhat pissed off at how this will set back the cause. I see it harming climate change action, and I expect to see this small local protest used as a political tool by the right wing all over the place. I expect it to be used as an excuse for new laws and police powers in the UK at least, although with the ongoing brexit it might take a while.