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For me the problem isn't getting to sleep or sleep duration- it's that my Xiaomi band reports consistently that I only get 10 - 30 mins of deep sleep in an 8 ho
by newsbinator 7y ago
For me the problem isn't getting to sleep or sleep duration- it's that my Xiaomi band reports consistently that I only get 10 - 30 mins of deep sleep in an 8 hour period.
And I consistently feel tired even before checking those stats, so I think they're accurate.
I can't seem to figure out how to solve this.
I'm average size (a bit under weight) and not a snorer. I stop eating by 7pm, stop screen time by 8pm, eliminate all light, and sleep in a cool, comfortable bed (that I only use for sleeping).
Aerobic exercise and morning sunlight don't seem to matter.
What else is there to do?
- bongo662 7y agoDo you exercise consistently? Hows your diet?
- newsbinator 7y agoI get decent aerobic exercise 3 times a week or more. I should start lifting again. My diet is mostly veggies, eggs, chicken, fiber cereal, nuts, berries, and chocolate.
- rexpop 7y agoWhat's on your mind, while you're trying to sleep?
- newsbinator 7y agoWell, that is the question, isn't it? I feel like I dream all night long. Random dreams- nothing that speaks to a particular worry.
- rexpop 7y agoThen, what's the concern?
- discreteevent 7y agoThat a little machine with a motion sensor and a few if statements is determining the quality of their sleep. (In fairness they also complain of being tired)
- rexpop 7y agoIt's their complaint that concerns me.
- newsbinator 7y agoThe concern is feeling tired all the time, mainly. My fitness band's "Deep Sleep" count seems to correspond to how tired I feel, even before looking at it.
- bongo662 7y agoCompletely anecdotal, but everytime I get a hard run in - especially in the evening I stay up way later than I typically would even if its hours before I try and sleep. Lifting is the opposite and helps me fall asleep. Maybe try running in the morning and lifting in the evening if thats an option for you. Your diet looks on point though it doesnt look it would cause any issues. Maybe try reading 1 - 1.5 hrs before you'd sleep to help clear your mind.
- knocknock 7y agoHow are you with Alcohol and Caffeine intake?
- newsbinator 7y agoZero alcohol for the last 10 years. Zero caffeine for the last 3.5 years.
- voracious 7y agoDo these abstinences bespeak an anxiety or mood disorder?
- newsbinator 7y agoNah, I just don't care about alcohol, and coffee gives me heartburn (which is normally well under control thanks to a PPI).
- TimMurnaghan 7y agoI'd look at any long term medication as a factor. PPIs can definitely affect magnesium. https://www.gov.uk/drug-safety-update/proton-pump-inhibitors-in-long-term-use-reports-of-hypomagnesaemia https://www.gov.uk/drug-safety-update/proton-pump-inhibitors... On the other hand if your heartburn causes reflux then the PPI can help sleep. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24942514 https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/24942514
- Alupis 7y agoHow about marijuana? Kind of taboo, since most like to think there's no side effects, but many find it can mess with REM cycles and, consequently, nightly dreaming[1]. REM, being where you get your most restful sleeping done. Although stopping cold turkey is likely to not help much initially. [1] https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7b7gn4/why-are-your-dreams-suddenly-so-intense-when-you-stop-smoking-weed-876 https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/7b7gn4/why-are-your-dream...
- hnick 7y agoHave you done a sleep study? It can detect if you are waking and why. Even if you think you don't snore you might have airway issues. Of course results vary, mine basically lead to the doctor saying I was a bit below normal and losing some weight (5-10kg) should help, but it didn't address the real issue which was that I take too long to get to sleep in the first place.
- newsbinator 7y agoI have thought about it, although it is quite expensive ($1500 - $2000 out of pocket). I am a few kilos under weight for my height, so it hasn't felt like an obvious move. But I do want to get to the bottom of my sleep issues- it affects every aspect of my life.
- hnick 7y agoThat's a shame. I think I paid about $70 being in Australia with the other ~$500 covered. If they had managed to fix me, it would be probably be a very good investment for Medicare since poor sleep predicts many issues. You could try nasal strips to open up your nose as a cheap hack in the meantime and see if it works. They make me itchy so I stopped, but did help my airflow when they were on.
- hurrdurr2 7y agoHave you seen a sleep specialist or done a full sleep study?
- Izkata 7y agoHave you done any experiments with sleeping position? On my back I usually have trouble sleeping, on my left side I'm well enough to get a full night's sleep (usually with some rolling around), but on my right side, with my arms in the right position (right arm under pillow and curled back under my head, left arm over pillow and reaching around towards the other arm's elbow), I'm usually completely out.
- newsbinator 7y agoThat's very interesting. I hadn't considered that at all. I do find I fall asleep on my side, and perhaps wake up when my hand falls asleep or something. Good idea.
- rashkov 7y agoA few things you could try: taking a magnesium supplement, use a weighted blanket, add some exercise to your routine. Is there noise that might be waking you up? A white noise machine or earplugs could help. Are you sharing your bed with someone? Their tossing and turning could affect your sleep, so fixing your bed frame and getting a mattress which isolates motion could both help. Is your life stressful? That could be something else to address. Finally, keep in mind that possibly, these wrist sensors may not actually be able to detect deep sleep all that well.
- newsbinator 7y agoA lot of good things to consider there, thank you. To start with, I'll try to add lifting to my routine and maybe a magnesium supplement. I might do the supplement first for a week, to see if it has any impact.
- SmellyGeekBoy 7y agoMagnesium makes a huge difference for me.