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For me Apple Watch with ECG caused panic attacks.

by ex3ndr 7y ago

saagarjha 7y ago
Why, did it report anything unusual?
- derefr 7y ago
  There’s a known correlation between increased https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interoception https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interoception and anxiety. Part of how panic attacks work, for example is a feedback loop where you’re aware of the way your body is reacting to panicking (feeling your heart speed up, etc.), which makes you panic more.
  - pfedak 7y ago
    Explored rather amusingly in The Pale King https://books.google.com/books?id=gW0K6X-ThtAC&lpg=PA12&dq=pale%20king&pg=PA100#v=onepage&q&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=gW0K6X-ThtAC&lpg=PA12&dq=p...
  - ex3ndr 7y ago
    Exactly. I was in traffic jam, checked my pulse routinely and it was slightly more than usual: 80 BPM. I started to think that something wrong. now it became 90BPM, and here closed feedback loop caused almost 1800BPM. I have rushed to the ER and good doctors (thank god we have cheap medicine) helped me to go through this. Panic attacks continued for almost half year.
    - saagarjha 7y ago
      > almost 1800BPM Uh…
  - shrimp_emoji 7y ago
    For me, panic attacks were scariest when I had no idea what they were or while I was (or am) still uncertain that they're panic attacks. The fear that they're something worse drove the feedback loop. Being able to identify them as anxiety (focusing quite acutely on constellations of familiar symptoms and reasoning about how they might or might not be anxiety-related) made me ride all subsequent ones out successfully, and they also grew milder and more short-lived. If a mobile device acting as crappy medical equipment told me I was having heart problems, though, my anxiety would definitely increase.
- serf 7y ago
  I don't know about the parent poster, but apple watches have had a high rate of a.fib false positives.[0] I'm not sure if that has been remediated yet. [0]:https://www.biospace.com/article/apple-watch-atrial-fibrillation-study-has-positive-but-mixed-results/ https://www.biospace.com/article/apple-watch-atrial-fibrilla...
  - cbsks 7y ago
    “The study used an older version of the Apple Watch, not the latest one launched in September, which had added a built-in electrocardiogram to its pulse sensor.” Presumably the new version is more accurate
    - cbsks 7y ago
      Have any studies been done on the new Apple watch’s effectiveness of detecting afib? I’m on mobile and couldn’t find anything with a quick search
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taneq 7y ago
Portable white-coat hypertension, yay!

For me Apple Watch with ECG caused panic attacks.

by ex3ndr 7y ago

For me Apple Watch with ECG caused panic attacks.

saagarjha 7y ago

Why, did it report anything unusual?

derefr 7y ago
There’s a known correlation between increased https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interoception https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interoception and anxiety. Part of how panic attacks work, for example is a feedback loop where you’re aware of the way your body is reacting to panicking (feeling your heart speed up, etc.), which makes you panic more.
- pfedak 7y ago
  Explored rather amusingly in The Pale King https://books.google.com/books?id=gW0K6X-ThtAC&lpg=PA12&dq=pale%20king&pg=PA100#v=onepage&q&f=false https://books.google.com/books?id=gW0K6X-ThtAC&lpg=PA12&dq=p...
- ex3ndr 7y ago
  Exactly. I was in traffic jam, checked my pulse routinely and it was slightly more than usual: 80 BPM. I started to think that something wrong. now it became 90BPM, and here closed feedback loop caused almost 1800BPM. I have rushed to the ER and good doctors (thank god we have cheap medicine) helped me to go through this. Panic attacks continued for almost half year.
  - saagarjha 7y ago
    > almost 1800BPM Uh…
- shrimp_emoji 7y ago
  For me, panic attacks were scariest when I had no idea what they were or while I was (or am) still uncertain that they're panic attacks. The fear that they're something worse drove the feedback loop. Being able to identify them as anxiety (focusing quite acutely on constellations of familiar symptoms and reasoning about how they might or might not be anxiety-related) made me ride all subsequent ones out successfully, and they also grew milder and more short-lived. If a mobile device acting as crappy medical equipment told me I was having heart problems, though, my anxiety would definitely increase.
serf 7y ago
I don't know about the parent poster, but apple watches have had a high rate of a.fib false positives.[0] I'm not sure if that has been remediated yet. [0]:https://www.biospace.com/article/apple-watch-atrial-fibrillation-study-has-positive-but-mixed-results/ https://www.biospace.com/article/apple-watch-atrial-fibrilla...
- cbsks 7y ago
  “The study used an older version of the Apple Watch, not the latest one launched in September, which had added a built-in electrocardiogram to its pulse sensor.” Presumably the new version is more accurate
  - cbsks 7y ago
    Have any studies been done on the new Apple watch’s effectiveness of detecting afib? I’m on mobile and couldn’t find anything with a quick search

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taneq 7y ago

Portable white-coat hypertension, yay!