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Huawei files to trademark mobile OS around the world after U.S. ban
- fasthandle 7y agoHongmeng? 'Hong' as in 'red' and 'Meng' as in 'dream' ? That's quite a name!
- justsayinstuff 7y agoThat's a good name to assuage fears /s
- carlmr 7y agoI thought the same (would be perfect match actually), but it's 鸿蒙 (hong2meng2). 鸿 hong2 can mean wild goose or writing/correspondence 蒙 meng2/meng1 can mean a few things, to cover (2), to fool (1), stupid (2). So maybe to cover all aspects of correspondence? I'm not sure if this sense of cover applies here though. That would at least make some sense. To fool would be wrong according to the indicated pinyin tones on the wikipedia page.
- xfs 7y agoIts meaning is surprisingly well documented: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Meng https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hong_Meng. Huawei has filed plenty of other trademarks using names from ancient Chinese texts.
- carlmr 7y agoAh I was on a different Wikipedia page about the OS, that only mentioned the name.
- chvid 7y agoBig Goose Dummy - perfect name for an os.
- hnnmzh 7y agoThe wikipedia page is really bad. Just forget about it. > "Ah," said Big Concealment, "you are too far gone! Up, up, stir yourself and be off!" Alok Ranjan was also involved as prime lead. Where is this Alok Ranjan coming from??!! Anyway, I don't know why Huawei used this name but I guess it refers to the beginning of the world from a primordial form, which an OS kind of is. Or maybe it refers to Daoist/Zhuangzi literatures on how the world should be governed, which also relates to an OS.
- yorwba 7y agoAlok Ranjan appears to be spam: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hong_Meng&diff=898735330&oldid=898057627 https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Hong_Meng&diff=89...
- hjk05 7y agoSo someone ser up scripts to post CV sounding tidbits completely random wiki pages in an effort to do some jobhunting SEO? That’s hilarious! Also Rok Aljan Was involved as prime lead.
- ackbar03 7y agoA lot of companies do in China, makes for some cool names You have 盘古 sort of originator of earth character 春秋 warring period in China 补天 rebuilding the skies
- fasthandle 7y agoAh, thanks, quite a nice name, perhaps, thanks for your child comment to the Wikipedia article for some background. Translated as.. > a metaphor for the "primordial world, primeval chaos" in Chinese creation myths. > "Mists-of-Chaos", "Vast Obscurity", "Big Concealment", "Vital Principle", "Natural Energy" and "Big Goose Dummy" I can't quite escape the pun, however. And puns are pretty prevalent in Chinese. Someone will have OKed it.
- carlmr 7y ago>I can't quite escape the pun, however. And puns are pretty prevalent in Chinese. Someone will have OKed it. The tones are at least slightly different 鸿蒙 2/2 and 红梦 2/4, but I also think they might have done it for that reason.
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- NotPaidToPost 7y agoObviously not. As others have pointed out, it comes from Chinese/Taoist mythology and refers to a character. It's like if we chose a name from a character in Roman or Greek mythology. As many such Chinese names it is not that easy to translate, and like in Roman/Greek mythology the idea is linked to what the character did.
- hu3 7y agoI wonder if this is being done just to gain leverage in negotiations with Google and U.S.
- chvid 7y agoIt is a massive project that has been years in the making.
- chvid 7y agohttps://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3013813/inside-huaweis-secretive-plans-develop-operating-system-rival-googles https://www.scmp.com/tech/big-tech/article/3013813/inside-hu...
- chvid 7y agoFrom the article - it sounds similar to sailfish or bb10: The Huawei OS is based on a microkernel that is light and can react quickly to adjustments and batches, according to the people with knowledge. Huawei engineers on the OS project have also studied Android and Apple’s iOS closely to learn from them. One of the biggest technical challenges for the Huawei OS under development has been its compatibility with Android, one of the sources said. Compatibility would enable a Huawei phone with its own OS to download and run Android apps seamlessly. Having a successful compatibility layer with Android would also mean that app developers around the world would not need to develop extra code for Huawei’s OS.
- LoSboccacc 7y agoit tells a lot that most major manufactures have a post-android backup plan, including Google
- petre 7y agoGood luck to them. Microsoft, Samsung, Blackberry tried it and failed. Blackberry even had their own OS before Android took over.
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- dmortin 7y agoImagine having to support iOS, Android and Hongmeng.
- carlmr 7y agoIs that much worse than supporting Mac OS, Linux and Windows on the desktop?
- tty2300 7y agoSome programs even support BSD as well
- dmortin 7y agoCross platform SDKs are more mature on the desktop than on mobile, so doing the same on the desktop should be easier.
- carlmr 7y agoThe more mobile OSs we get the more likely we will develop better cross platform support. Which is also good to break the iOS/Android duopoly.
- simongr3dal 7y agoMicrosoft already tried to do that with their Windows Phone operating systems, and they weren't particularly successful even with some pretty big efforts on their part. They went as far as making it possible to run android binaries on Windows Phone (Project Astoria). They also made Visual Studio able to compile Objective-C code so it could make iOS codebases into apps for Windows Phone (Windows Bridge for iOS)
- tty2300 7y agoI imagine the tooling will just get better to the point where its like electron, you don't even think about what OS the user is running.
- aneutron 7y agoI'm really excited about what Huawei will bring to the table, and what assurances it will make in terms of privacy. China doesn't have a spotless track record in the matter, but neither does the US. That's why I'm really excited to see where they will take this, the "more privacy than Android"-way, or the "We'll collect just as much". Because I think there's more to gain from going the former route.
- richardwhiuk 7y agoI'd be very surprised if Huawei build a privacy focused OS.
- bildung 7y agoWhy? In contrast to Google they are not in the advertising business.
- A2017U1 7y agoXaiomi are basically the only global competitors for an android privacy phone against Pixels. What makes you think Huawei couldn't do it?
- nacs 7y agoBecause Huawei is based in China. There's literally an article on the frontpage right now that talks about how WeChat (also based in China) is heavily censored, moderated, and how people have been arrested for things they said in "private" chats.
- aceon48 7y agoI hope US companies shamelessly copy Huawei's tech and ignore the trademark
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