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That is hopefully going to change soon - Linux phones are coming: Pinephone (should be early next year, somewhere around $150) https://www.pine64.org/pinephone

That is hopefully going to change soon - Linux phones are coming: Pinephone (should be early next year, somewhere around $150) https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/ https://www.pine64.org/pinephone/ Librem 5 (should be Q3 2019, $650) https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/ https://puri.sm/products/librem-5/

mxuribe 7y ago
More than "linux winning the desktop", i really, really, really hope and dream that more linux phones become available - including LineageOS stuff becoming easier to install on legacy android phones.
- aclsid 7y ago
  I think what you want is already here. Android is Linux on the phone. LineageOS was built on top of AOSP. What we really need though is a replacement for all Google Play Services that is free software, including push notifications.
  - AstralStorm 7y ago
    Android is using Linux, but calling it Linux is entirely wrong. It tries very hard to hide any non-portable components from you. The base platform is a virtual machine where you have zero access to any Linux API. They even indent their own API for things Linux already has! (Binder, ashmem, power management...) About the one Linux API you have access to is sockets, if you're writing native code, and there mostly a POSIX subset. (No, you do not really have access to file system directly.) It could run on Minix or Windows or Darwin for all Google cares about - but hardware manufacturers preferred Linux for the price.
vardump 7y ago
I'd love to have something like: * Kernel, drivers and userland I can compile on my own if I want to * 4-8 GB RAM * 4 core Cortex A72 or better wide out-of-order core (no A53, A55 or similar crap, unless it's a big-little configuration) * Good 64-128 GB low latency high IOPS eMMC. Too many devices penny pinch here creating a slow user experience. * 4G (600 Mbps+) or preferably 5G * Good OLED screen, 1080x1920 is probably enough. Although I do like S9+ 1440x2960 screen * Stereo speakers, front and back camera, GPS (+ glonass, etc.), standard set of sensors. * USB-C and headphone jack * MicroSD slot that can actually read & write over 100 megabytes per second. * NO ability for baseband to read and write memory arbitrarily; embedded USB connection or something. * Price below $1000
- andyjpb 7y ago
  The Gemini ( https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device--2#/ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-... ) and the Cosmo ( https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/ ) are both nearly (but not quite) there. I have a Gemini and have been very pleased with it and have supported the Cosmo too because I want to support them. I'm hoping that if they continue to make sales they'll continue to develop newer devices. These projects aren't quite delivering your complete feature set but they're making the best go of it out of anyone I've seen.
  - vardump 7y ago
    Those are a bit like Nokia N900, their Linux powered physical keyboard phone from 2009. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N900 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N900
    - harry8 7y ago
      The n900 was amazing. The hardware, the OS all really good. Nokia could have kept that going and won a huge market share. No login, no account, no tracking, no surveillance. Just your phone. But Microsoft execs ran then into the ground then sold the corpse to Microsoft. The non-surveillance, open phone was lost.

mxuribe 7y ago

More than "linux winning the desktop", i really, really, really hope and dream that more linux phones become available - including LineageOS stuff becoming easier to install on legacy android phones.

aclsid 7y ago
I think what you want is already here. Android is Linux on the phone. LineageOS was built on top of AOSP. What we really need though is a replacement for all Google Play Services that is free software, including push notifications.
- AstralStorm 7y ago
  Android is using Linux, but calling it Linux is entirely wrong. It tries very hard to hide any non-portable components from you. The base platform is a virtual machine where you have zero access to any Linux API. They even indent their own API for things Linux already has! (Binder, ashmem, power management...) About the one Linux API you have access to is sockets, if you're writing native code, and there mostly a POSIX subset. (No, you do not really have access to file system directly.) It could run on Minix or Windows or Darwin for all Google cares about - but hardware manufacturers preferred Linux for the price.

vardump 7y ago

I'd love to have something like: * Kernel, drivers and userland I can compile on my own if I want to * 4-8 GB RAM * 4 core Cortex A72 or better wide out-of-order core (no A53, A55 or similar crap, unless it's a big-little configuration) * Good 64-128 GB low latency high IOPS eMMC. Too many devices penny pinch here creating a slow user experience. * 4G (600 Mbps+) or preferably 5G * Good OLED screen, 1080x1920 is probably enough. Although I do like S9+ 1440x2960 screen * Stereo speakers, front and back camera, GPS (+ glonass, etc.), standard set of sensors. * USB-C and headphone jack * MicroSD slot that can actually read & write over 100 megabytes per second. * NO ability for baseband to read and write memory arbitrarily; embedded USB connection or something. * Price below $1000

andyjpb 7y ago
The Gemini ( https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-keyboard-mobile-device--2#/ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/gemini-pda-android-linux-... ) and the Cosmo ( https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/ https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/cosmo-communicator#/ ) are both nearly (but not quite) there. I have a Gemini and have been very pleased with it and have supported the Cosmo too because I want to support them. I'm hoping that if they continue to make sales they'll continue to develop newer devices. These projects aren't quite delivering your complete feature set but they're making the best go of it out of anyone I've seen.
- vardump 7y ago
  Those are a bit like Nokia N900, their Linux powered physical keyboard phone from 2009. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N900 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_N900
  - harry8 7y ago
    The n900 was amazing. The hardware, the OS all really good. Nokia could have kept that going and won a huge market share. No login, no account, no tracking, no surveillance. Just your phone. But Microsoft execs ran then into the ground then sold the corpse to Microsoft. The non-surveillance, open phone was lost.