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Is this actually unmetered? Or is it unmetered until you hit a secret limit that they don't tell you, and then demand you pay them, like Cloudflare? (I'm not sa

Is this actually unmetered? Or is it unmetered until you hit a secret limit that they don't tell you, and then demand you pay them, like Cloudflare? (I'm not saying this is a bad thing, it's reasonable for CF to want their highest-usage customers to pay, I'm just curious)

derefr 7y ago
I believe it’s unmetered by them personally. But there’s always a “secret limit”—the point where your bandwidth usage looks like a DDoS attack, and the tier-1 exchange feeding the cloud provider’s DC decides to blackhole your traffic for the sake of the network.
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krn 7y ago
Their bandwidth limits are based on Mbps / Gbps, so the bandwidth is unmetered, but not unlimited. And unlike CDNs, public cloud companies make money from the computational power (CPU / RAM) they provide.
StavrosK 7y ago
They're going to limit you if you spin up a bunch of cheap instances to use up their bandwidth, but if you pay $300/mo for their 3 Gbps connection you can saturate that and they don't care.
- Aeolun 7y ago
  I assume if you saturate that 3Gbps connection they will definitely care. Just maybe not be in a position to do anything about it.
  - StavrosK 7y ago
    I guess they'll care about as much as a restaurant cares if you've eaten the meal you paid for.
    - dewey 7y ago
      You can’t compare it like that as the calculation is different. If someone eats a small part of their meal or the whole portion doesn’t change the outcome for the restaurant. They can’t sell the rest to someone else, if someone doesn’t use bandwidth someone else is going to use it.
MaxBarraclough 7y ago
> I'm not saying this is a bad thing Why not? It's deliberately misleading, no?
- scarejunba 7y ago
  No, it’s not. The audience is meant to understand “if this isn’t specifically the thing you’re building to use, you won’t have to worry about it.” That’s useful to me so I can just not worry about that thing.
  - MaxBarraclough 7y ago
    Except that you do still have to worry, because it is metered, they're just being coy about the precise figures, and they're really just outright lying to you by using the word 'unmetered'. Am I missing something? I'm not seeing another side to this. Secret fair-use rules are exactly as dishonest as when the telcos lie about 'unlimited' data plans, no?

derefr 7y ago

I believe it’s unmetered by them personally. But there’s always a “secret limit”—the point where your bandwidth usage looks like a DDoS attack, and the tier-1 exchange feeding the cloud provider’s DC decides to blackhole your traffic for the sake of the network.

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krn 7y ago

Their bandwidth limits are based on Mbps / Gbps, so the bandwidth is unmetered, but not unlimited. And unlike CDNs, public cloud companies make money from the computational power (CPU / RAM) they provide.

StavrosK 7y ago

They're going to limit you if you spin up a bunch of cheap instances to use up their bandwidth, but if you pay $300/mo for their 3 Gbps connection you can saturate that and they don't care.

Aeolun 7y ago
I assume if you saturate that 3Gbps connection they will definitely care. Just maybe not be in a position to do anything about it.
- StavrosK 7y ago
  I guess they'll care about as much as a restaurant cares if you've eaten the meal you paid for.
  - dewey 7y ago
    You can’t compare it like that as the calculation is different. If someone eats a small part of their meal or the whole portion doesn’t change the outcome for the restaurant. They can’t sell the rest to someone else, if someone doesn’t use bandwidth someone else is going to use it.

MaxBarraclough 7y ago

> I'm not saying this is a bad thing Why not? It's deliberately misleading, no?

scarejunba 7y ago
No, it’s not. The audience is meant to understand “if this isn’t specifically the thing you’re building to use, you won’t have to worry about it.” That’s useful to me so I can just not worry about that thing.
- MaxBarraclough 7y ago
  Except that you do still have to worry, because it is metered, they're just being coy about the precise figures, and they're really just outright lying to you by using the word 'unmetered'. Am I missing something? I'm not seeing another side to this. Secret fair-use rules are exactly as dishonest as when the telcos lie about 'unlimited' data plans, no?