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I wonder if that is sustainable as features are built on top of the new system and their codebase diverges further and further from chrome as a result.

haecceity 7y ago
Google said that the adblocking would still be available for entreprise customers so it should be as simple as flipping a switch. Maintenance should be easy if that's true.
- ryacko 7y ago
  I think they'd simply be maintaining separate sets of backported code, since Enterprise Google Chrome won't be open source.
  - metildaa 7y ago
    WebKit/Blink is a mixed LGPL/BSD licensed project, with KHTML and other KDE developed parts being LGPL. Google likely can't keep most of their patches stripping support secret.
    - ryacko 7y ago
      Well, an enterprise would have to ask for the source code to Chrome, wouldn't they?
      - vasili111 7y ago
        Well,they never asked for Microsoft Explorer/Edge code.
        ryacko 7y ago
        Only KDE, Apple, and Google can enforce it through their own licenses.
- techntoke 7y ago
  Google never said they were removing ad-blocking. Not sure where you are getting your information.
ralphstodomingo 7y ago
I won't worry about that. I'm guessing this effectively creates a fork of Chromium that does not have the anti-ad blocker changes in question, which Opera/Brave/Edge will use instead of the main one. On that note, are people switching over to Firefox already?
- mattlondon 7y ago
  I've been using Firefox for 6+months now as my primary browser. Once used to the slightly different UI I've not noticed any difference in day to day browsing. Only complaint - and this is my fault for enabling it and not a Firefox issue - is that if I used a container for Google, reCAPTCHAs are a huge huge huge pain in the arse now and take many attempts to pass. This is (I guess) because the Google cookie cannot track your general web usage (since your google cookie is in a container that only works on google domains, rather than general web properties) so it is harder to distinguish you from a bot. Also the dev tools are not as nice, but that is a niggle.
  - unicornporn 7y ago
    Try https://www.startpage.com/ https://www.startpage.com/ Works as proxy for Google Search. No captchas, very customizable. Could never live with the Bing based crap results of DuckDuckGo.
    - Doctor_Fegg 7y ago
      Whatever DDG does to Bing, it makes it worse. I recently switched from DDG to Bing and the difference is colossal - 95% of the time it’s as good as Google.
      - unicornporn 7y ago
        But non-proxied Bing results are still far worse than Google, so I chose StartPage. :)
    - mattlondon 7y ago
imgabe 7y ago
I think Google will find people switch browsers more easily than they think. There was a time when Chrome was not ubiquitous. Even non-technical users can be convinced to click on a different icon to access the Internet if it results in a better experience. That's how we ended up with Chrome after all.
- joaomacp 7y ago
  > Even non-technical users can be convinced to click on a different icon to access the Internet Google put a lot of effort in convincing those users, by plastering Chrome icons in their products and saying it was the supposed way to access the internet "safely". It's not as easy for others to do the same.
robbrown451 7y ago
I don't see that as a problem. Sure it takes effort, but especially since Google has the feature in their enterprise version, it shouldn't be too hard to just turn it on. Regardless, I'm sure a company like Brave or Microsoft can handle the engineering necessary to keep this working. You don't have to fork the whole thing.

haecceity 7y ago

Google said that the adblocking would still be available for entreprise customers so it should be as simple as flipping a switch. Maintenance should be easy if that's true.

ryacko 7y ago
I think they'd simply be maintaining separate sets of backported code, since Enterprise Google Chrome won't be open source.
- metildaa 7y ago
  WebKit/Blink is a mixed LGPL/BSD licensed project, with KHTML and other KDE developed parts being LGPL. Google likely can't keep most of their patches stripping support secret.
  - ryacko 7y ago
    Well, an enterprise would have to ask for the source code to Chrome, wouldn't they?
    - vasili111 7y ago
      Well,they never asked for Microsoft Explorer/Edge code.
      - ryacko 7y ago
        Only KDE, Apple, and Google can enforce it through their own licenses.
techntoke 7y ago
Google never said they were removing ad-blocking. Not sure where you are getting your information.

ralphstodomingo 7y ago

I won't worry about that. I'm guessing this effectively creates a fork of Chromium that does not have the anti-ad blocker changes in question, which Opera/Brave/Edge will use instead of the main one. On that note, are people switching over to Firefox already?

mattlondon 7y ago
I've been using Firefox for 6+months now as my primary browser. Once used to the slightly different UI I've not noticed any difference in day to day browsing. Only complaint - and this is my fault for enabling it and not a Firefox issue - is that if I used a container for Google, reCAPTCHAs are a huge huge huge pain in the arse now and take many attempts to pass. This is (I guess) because the Google cookie cannot track your general web usage (since your google cookie is in a container that only works on google domains, rather than general web properties) so it is harder to distinguish you from a bot. Also the dev tools are not as nice, but that is a niggle.
- unicornporn 7y ago
  Try https://www.startpage.com/ https://www.startpage.com/ Works as proxy for Google Search. No captchas, very customizable. Could never live with the Bing based crap results of DuckDuckGo.
  - Doctor_Fegg 7y ago
    Whatever DDG does to Bing, it makes it worse. I recently switched from DDG to Bing and the difference is colossal - 95% of the time it’s as good as Google.
    - unicornporn 7y ago
      But non-proxied Bing results are still far worse than Google, so I chose StartPage. :)
  - mattlondon 7y ago

imgabe 7y ago

I think Google will find people switch browsers more easily than they think. There was a time when Chrome was not ubiquitous. Even non-technical users can be convinced to click on a different icon to access the Internet if it results in a better experience. That's how we ended up with Chrome after all.

joaomacp 7y ago
> Even non-technical users can be convinced to click on a different icon to access the Internet Google put a lot of effort in convincing those users, by plastering Chrome icons in their products and saying it was the supposed way to access the internet "safely". It's not as easy for others to do the same.

robbrown451 7y ago

I don't see that as a problem. Sure it takes effort, but especially since Google has the feature in their enterprise version, it shouldn't be too hard to just turn it on. Regardless, I'm sure a company like Brave or Microsoft can handle the engineering necessary to keep this working. You don't have to fork the whole thing.