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So in the past couple decades, your ace in the hole is Dota? Damn, that's an entire game (that was mirrored from a w3 mod) Also: gen z gives absolutely zero shi
by yoshibb 7y ago
So in the past couple decades, your ace in the hole is Dota? Damn, that's an entire game (that was mirrored from a w3 mod) Also: gen z gives absolutely zero shits about Mobas, so that's kind of a lost cause.
What else do you got? Or is it just DOTA in two decades, that z gives no shits about, while the main moba demo ages out of gaming.
And are you serious? "we can't compete with other games so we don't" This is exactly the kind of bs I'm talking about.
Bunch of one hit wonder 1%ers who have been been sitting around in a vacuum playing widgets over at club valve over in bellevue, they haven't grown at all since the orange box.
- yoshibb 7y ago'I do however see a problem with non-engineers (taking your line of arguing) trying to obtain leading roles over creative processes in the field of engineering. It simply doesn't work. Or at least not efficiently." This is the bias I am talking about. You guys are sitting at a near 0% in terms of creating new and interesting IP--and this is throughout the entire industry--I can count the good titles post-orange box era with one hand. Technology evolved: engineers realized they need visual people now, but for everything else were like: nah, we're good. Spoiler: you're not. No new titles, the titles that get through are disposable flavors of the month, at best. The amount of creativity engineers have shown is about equal to creatives skill in OOP. If a gulf engineers don't even know how to cross. If we could quantify the difference, it would be like asking a non tech person to do your netcode. We are talking about a lifetime a shaping here, you can't backload the skills any easier than I can backload the skills to build an engine.
- bartimus 7y agoI don't work at Valve. You're missing my point. I didn't say we don't need artists. I'm saying you shouldn't have artists taking leading roles in the fields that aren't artistic. Perhaps you're doing a bit too much goalposting to make your argument? Ignoring all the groundbreaking titles (in any company). The other groundbreaking title that was released by Valve was of course Steam. The first app store. What makes Valve so great is that they're exactly not doing the same old thing they were doing. They reinvent and innovate. That's what makes it a great company. One of the best imho. Do you hear any complaints coming from Valve? Seems to me they're happy with the direction they chose. They don't have a problem.
- yoshibb 7y agoHahaha. I love it. No complaints from the legacy engineers who are collecting million dollar salaries doing nothing, blowing smoke up gabes ass with vaporware. Out of the 100million American pc gamers--during peak western hours--less than a 1/4 are on steam. Everyone else on the inside and outside who don't want to see the company sold to activision-disney is a bit concerned. The goalpost will move, and it will continue to move as we continue to examine how bad the bed has been shit post orangebox. Millions upon millions of dollars spent over decades, with almost nothing to show. With any recent innovations coming from asset flips and indie teams.
- bartimus 7y agoI still fail to see the problem. I understand your complaint. But Valve is doing fantastic. It's not their mission to bring out new titles. A company is not a democracy where we get "to vote" what direction they should take. If it's not what you like then don't work for them or buy their products.
- yoshibb 7y agoI find it hard to believe that they got into the industry to play stock market for games, haha. I am wondering if Beth is planning on their own platform next, Microsoft is definitely making those moves . . . I think the new meta is a cycling people around content releases, hopefully within your ecosystem, but np if not, because they will cycle back for the next updates. It's the wild wild west again, baby.