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This is hardly amazing to anyone who fasts regularly. I saw increases in all my major lifts when I train fasted and eat plenty of good fat (60% of total kcal).
by robchez 16y ago
This is hardly amazing to anyone who fasts regularly. I saw increases in all my major lifts when I train fasted and eat plenty of good fat (60% of total kcal).
I would love to get a hold of the full study for a better look at it.
Edit:
Reading this article a bit closer, and taking to look at the study, it is clear that the author has some serious bias against the idea that a high-fat diet with fasted training will be of benefit. The people who lost weight were eating 30% more than usual. If they modified there diet to 50% of fat, and not increased calories, you would have seen an even great weight drop.
- sliverstorm 16y ago'fast' is a terrible word, IMHO. Denying yourself food for a handful of hours is not the same as denying yourself food for several days, and yet both are considered fasting. How long were the fasts you took? I am curious because my lifts suffer when I have not eaten breakfast, and I'm pretty sure it's because of the exhausted feeling in my muscles, which I attribute to the lack of food.
- robchez 16y agodenying yourself food for days is starving not fasting HaHa. I fast every day, 16-19 hrs at a time. I train completely for strength rather than endurance, so lift super heavy for 4-5. Max 2-3 sets. If you are going for muscle endurance (8reps+) then some food prior to training.
- bumbledraven 16y agoHow close to your workout is your eating window? I was doing 23/1 intermittent fasting and my coach told me it would interfere with my strength training. I'm also training for strength/max lifts, not endurance.
- robchez 16y agoStraight after. I will train, have a shower then eat. My window is generally 4-8 hours depending how full I get. I have seen only improvement in my lifts since I started this regimen. Lost some serious bodyfat % whilst gained muscle.
- aik 16y agoMind if I ask what your motivation is for training strictly for strength and not endurance?
- thesz 16y agoMy own reason is that training for strength stimulates your body to produce testosterone, which stimulate logical thinking, among other things. Low level of testosterone found to be one of reasons of men's depression.
- eru 16y agoAlso muscles look nice on guys.
- awi 16y agoI'm pretty sure aerobic exercise is better for the brain than strength training. Aerobic exercise increases oxygen flow to the brain and it directly improves creation and survival of neurons. Effectively it acts as a drug for your brain. It has the additional benefit that it alters your mood, aerobic exercise makes you happy :) Strength training may boost testosterone, but the effects of aerobic exercise is well established. Several comparisons have been done between aerobic and strength training and the conclusions have been that strength training have little effect on executive function. My source for this is the book "Brain Rules" by John Medina [1]. Also check out his presentation on exercise [2] and his Authors@Google talk [3]. [1] http://www.brainrules.net http://www.brainrules.net [2] http://www.brainrules.net/exercise http://www.brainrules.net/exercise [3] http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK1nMQq67VI http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IK1nMQq67VI
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- tomjen3 16y agoBy the same token we should not call running 5km running, since it is different from running a marathon.
- jules 16y agoBy your token we are constantly fasting, except in the couple of seconds where food is moving through our throat.
- krschultz 16y agoI'm friends with several people who fast for religious reasons. For them that means not eating during the day time, it does not mean starving for days. That is one definition of fasting, I guess a lot of people are only exposed to the story of Jesus "fasting" for 40 days where he ate nothing at all (if I remember the story right, if I have that wrong please correct me, I don't know the Bible all that well).
- brandnewlow 16y agoLinks to where I can read more about this "fast training" stuff? never heard of it.
- Evgeny 16y agoI have recently discovered http://www.leangains.com/ http://www.leangains.com/ and it has some really good information (in my opinion).
- plastics 16y agoLean Gains is pretty good. I can also recommend Rob Wolf's Podcast - http://robbwolf.com/ http://robbwolf.com/ he also explains when to be careful with IF.
- matwood 16y agoGoogle "Intermittent Fasting" (IF). For many people the hunger pains go away as long as they don't eat at all for long periods of time. It can make it easier to lose weight because you end up eating less calories over the course of day or week. Personally, I can't IF at all because of my activity levels. Missing 1-2 meals for a couple days means I start losing weight which is not something I'm looking to do.