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How to Draw Animals (1930)
- matt-attack 7y agoThis is literally a meme [1]. [1] https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/how-to-draw-an-owl https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/how-to-draw-an-owl
- tigerlily 7y agoYes, but p29 gives you all the intermediate steps :)
- sk0g 7y agoNot really, this one has small progressions between each steps, and seems like a cool reference, while you're link is just a joke?
- nautilus12 7y agoThe peacock though is pretty close to the meme..
- tigerlily 7y agoTrue, but presumably once the reader has worked their way up to this part of the book, they'd have built up the needed skills for drawing this one.
- headsoup 7y agoNot really, that's the point of the meme: you just follow explicit steps and then have to make a logical leap in understanding the actual subject. It's a fail at all levels when the author adds detail from their own knowledge/experience the student is unaware of. Frustration will follow...
- siidooloo 7y agoBooks like these are what the meme is based on.
- miguelmota 7y agoTrue, the peacock example is very like the owl meme https://live.staticflickr.com/3549/3546657319_57861e46ff_b.jpg https://live.staticflickr.com/3549/3546657319_57861e46ff_b.j...
- goto11 7y agoNot really. If you get the basic shapes and angles down, drawing the plumes is easy. Just try it! A funny thing about drawing is that some things which look simple is hard, and some things which looks impressive is really easy. Shapes, proportions, movement and perspective is generally hard. Textures, patterns, tones and shadows is relatively easy since you are just "filling in". In the owl meme, some of the hard things (like getting the perspective and angles of the eyes and face correct) is glossed over.
- gHosts 7y agoYes, but this at least tells you how to draw the rest of the fking owl. https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3649/3523029611_12c3a0c9f2_m.jpg https://farm4.static.flickr.com/3649/3523029611_12c3a0c9f2_m...
- rangibaby 7y agoI think the difference between that meme and these instructions is that a novice could actually follow these instructions and get better at drawing.
- calahad 7y agothis is cool, i'm about to be doodling some animals
- DoreenMichele 7y agoThe site is in French. It's possibly "blog spam" in that it points to another French site as the original source: https://bibigreycat.blogspot.com/search/label/dessiner?updated-max=2009-06-10T02:31:00%2B02:00&max-results=20 https://bibigreycat.blogspot.com/search/label/dessiner?updat... On both sites, the images can be clicked to enlarge them. You probably don't need to know any French to figure that out, but I thought I would mention it in case it was helpful to someone. Edit: This info is from the top of the article: sur le site de l'Agence Eureka = from the site Agence Eureka (cliquez sur les images pour les agrandir) = click on the images to enlarge Per another comment here, there is an English language blog it points to and Wikimedia at the bottom of the page. The other French site appears to be the original source, not Wikimedia nor the English language site. It also says "Images on Flicker" and links to this, which some people might like better: https://www.flickr.com/photos/taffeta/sets/72157618009562834/ https://www.flickr.com/photos/taffeta/sets/72157618009562834...
- splatzone 7y agoThat helped me - cheers man!
- vageli 7y agoDoreen is a woman!
- cpa 7y agoAnd the URL means "draw in elementary school" in French.
- jgtrosh 7y agoIn phonetic French.
- homarp 7y agonot blog spam. it's a teacher collecting in one place resources for drawing/doing art for primary school level. She has her personal blog linked as the first link.
- bluedino 7y agoReminds me of Ed Emberly books and the “draw 50” series of books I checked out of the school library as a kid. Draw a few shapes, fill in the blanks and details, erase your marks... Or traced the second to last drawing and then fill it in by hand. I was a good “drawer” but you need a lot more practice to learn about perspective, shadows, and all the stuff that makes your drawings look good
- sridca 7y agoHN stinks
- app4soft 7y agoThis article has links to original blog post in English[0] + media folder on Wikimedia Commons[1]. Think, link to Wikimedia Commons is better as source for images. In same time, Daddy Types has more info about other editions: > Lambry's instructions were originally made for l'Echo du Noel in the 1920's and 30's, a weekly Catholic children's paper published by Maison de la Bonne Presse until 1936. [Bonne Presse was owned by Bayard, which is in turn owned by the Augustines. These images come from an unsold set of 51 editions of l'Echo du Noel from 1931 on eBay.fr[2].] > A Spanish translation [Los Animals tul cual] came out in 1941, but so far the earliest French edition of Les Animaux tel qu'ils sont I've found mentioned is from 1949. [The authors are listed as R. y L. Lambry, so someone--a brother or wife, perhaps--is getting shortchanged on her credit for the book. Desole', madame.] The 1959 edition[3] has a whopping 200 pages and promises to teach this "reputedly difficult subject [sujet réputé difficile]" in just 95 simple lessons. Et voila! Funny, I has similar 50-page book «Noah, teach us how to draw animals»[4] (Moscow: 1990, 1992) by Zheli Terez(?) in Russian (rus. Желли Терез. Ной, научи нас рисовать животных - М.: Рудомино, Цицеро 1990; Деймос, 1992. - 50 с.), but not sure what used as source for this book. [0] http://daddytypes.com/2009/05/13/how_to_draw_animals_the_robert_lambry_way.php http://daddytypes.com/2009/05/13/how_to_draw_animals_the_rob... [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Les_Animaux_tels_qu%27ils_sont https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:Les_Animaux_tels... [2] http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/709-53476-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2&pub=5574636946&toolid=10001&campid=5335844480&customid=&icep_item=270369722888&ipn=psmain&icep_vectorid=229480&kwid=902099&mtid=824&kw=lg http://rover.ebay.com/rover/1/709-53476-19255-0/1?icep_ff3=2... [3] http://www.livre-rare-book.com/Matieres/pd/8375.html http://www.livre-rare-book.com/Matieres/pd/8375.html [4] https://www.liveinternet.ru/users/ksu11111/post414036566/ https://www.liveinternet.ru/users/ksu11111/post414036566/
- splatzone 7y agoThis is what HN was invented for. Fuck the Silicon Valley venture capital narcissistic shite, let’s just share worthwhile things like this.
- rocky1138 7y agoYou know, I was just thinking that HN is truly the last site on the web left where something cool like this would be at the top of a list, like something Jerry and David's Guide to the World Wide Web would have on it. I'm so glad we still have this place.
- spectramax 7y agoI’ve been here for a while and I am seeing it erode slowly.
- dang 7y agoEverything is eroding slowly.
- stareatgoats 7y ago> a while 3 months is not enough to go by.
- spectramax 7y agoI have been lurking here without an account.
- ncmncm 7y ago"Basic Bean Bodies".
- AquaLineSpirit 7y agoAs per usual there is a subreddit for this /r/restofthefuckingowl
- seeken 7y agoWe play a great party game called 'Six Second Animals.' The caller names an animal and counts down from 6. Other players draw the animal. The caller picks a favorite and that drawer becomes caller.
- cm2012 7y agoSimple and fun!
- pravj 7y agoNeat! check out Google's Quick Draw [1] where you need to draw a given object in 20 seconds and a neural network will recognize what you're drawing. [1] https://quickdraw.withgoogle.com/ https://quickdraw.withgoogle.com/
- aflag 7y agoThat's the sad and alone version of the game.
- Yajirobe 7y agoI mean it literally asks you to draw the thing to be recognized. It would be more impressive if you were to draw freely and the neural network would recognize whatever you drew.
- avian 7y agoThat game wouldn't generate labeled training data for their machine vision algorithms, which I'm sure is the whole point.
- seedie 7y agoWhile I was really astonished that it recognized some things that I wouldn't even recognize myself, the neural network failed to recognize my computer, sad...
- mtone 7y agoI really like the handwriting. Both serious and playful.
- bitwize 7y agoIt reminds me of Ed Emberley. Or Trogdor. "S, more different S... Close it up real good for his head, then, using consummate V's, give him teeth, spinities, and angry eyebrows."
- spectramax 7y agoThe fundamental issue that is hardly addressed in drawing by shape recognition is that it gets the proportion right but fails to teach the inherent "3D" structure of the animal. The litmus test for drawing is to ask someone to draw an animal. If they can, great. Follow up and see if that draw the same thing but now in isometric view or from an arbitrary viewpoint/perspective. Imagine if you have a camera with various lenses (24mm, 35mm, 50mm, 90mm, etc) which describe the amount of foreshortening you need to compensate. Now imagine taking that camera and point it to the object (animal in this case) and taking pictures from many different angles and distances. You simply cannot draw these if you haven't internalized the 3D form. Check out Aaron Blaise (Lion King fame) who has a YT channel. His drawing skills are "3D" so to speak. He truly understands not just static anatomy, but the kinematics of how animals move and which muscles are involved. It is not by chance you get to work as an animator at Disney. This guide fails (like 99% of the drawing guides, I've bought many books on drawing and they all sorta suck) to teach structure. It does well in teaching proportions (relative size of parts of an animal) but that's not all you need to draw. You NEED to know anatomy; even if you know anatomy, then you need to be able to internalize the 3D structure of the skeleton, muscular volume, understand foreshortening, line quality, overlap, chiascuro or shading, etc. I have mad respect for caricature artists, because they know all this and then have the license to exaggerate and modify the form. Drawing is fucking hard, like insanely hard. I have spent more than 10 years in learning how to draw. It sounds like gatekeeping but honestly, I spent a whole year trying to draw basic shapes, doing coil exercises (See Sycra on YT), rotating objects, drawing architecture and basic geometrical scenes, etc. I would say getting an engineering degree (I have BS and MS) is wayyyy easier than learning to draw. It is one of the most difficult things I've pursued and the joy of sketching wherever I go is amazing. I still have ways to go, and I'd love to post a link to some of my drawings but I'd like to keep my account anonymous. Also, you know why organic chemistry students have real models of molecules? Because they need to know the 3D form. Same with physicians who play around with 3D models and do real dissections. Edit: Here is a sample of my early drawings (I did reverse google search and nothing showed up :-) ): https://i.imgur.com/e4GgxFA.jpg https://i.imgur.com/e4GgxFA.jpg
- underwater 7y agoThis is something the tutorials at https://drawabox.com https://drawabox.com focus on.
- dang 7y agoA small thread from 2017: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14120920 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=14120920
- victor106 7y agoCouldn’t help but remember Picasso’s bull. https://www.flickr.com/photos/sorarium/8578925321/in/photolist-5WrLxK-6fSRMQ-dh5a6F-9mfRY-8386qy-BMa4H-e56eBx https://www.flickr.com/photos/sorarium/8578925321/in/photoli... Also teaches you about how hard abstraction is. You really really need to understand the subject and the underlying dynamics to simplify.
- sreeramvenkat 7y agoI have observed the same (abstracting the essentials) in some of young children's drawings. They seem to be adept in identifying the essential elements from the details.
- codingdave 7y agoMany artists aren't trying to simplify an final subject. If anything, they come from the opposite direction - they don't worry at all about the final object - just look at it. Look at its lines. Mark out the major shapes. And there you have your abstraction. Now if you want to finish it, keep adding the next layer of detail. Mark out the smaller shapes. Mark out lines and endpoints. Start filling in some shading. Then add some texture. In other words, you start from a simple abstract and fill in. And most of the 'how to draw' sketches from the original post do exactly that.
- anonymfus 7y agoIt's interesting to compare how theatre went from scripted shows to improv. Soon painters will ask audience members to draw some random shape for them to start.
- ZeikJT 7y agoI love doing this when doodling. I can start with nothing, but often it is more interesting to start with a scribble!
- singlow 7y agoIf you, like I did, wish to have all the pages as a single pdf, I grabbed them all and made one [1]. (I just googled and found a simple site to share it on, so if it doesn't work or you have a better suggestion let me know.) [1] https://docdro.id/FFIBIrU https://docdro.id/FFIBIrU
- interfixus 7y agoBrilliant, thank you.
- davidsong 7y agoThanks for doing this. It's a pretty big file, so I compressed it down to 11mb: https://www.docdroid.net/A5g0tzk/les-animaux-compressed.pdf https://www.docdroid.net/A5g0tzk/les-animaux-compressed.pdf
- wirrbel 7y agoThanks for posting this. On the last pages it is said to be licensed under Creative Comments Share alike. I'd assume that the content might still be copyright protected by the original creator? So I don't think that anyone can relicense it as simple as that. I don't have a moral problem appropriating content that has been published 90 years ago. I don't think it is appropriate to assign it a Commons license though.
- sgentle 7y agoThe cc-by-sa note in the pdf is presumably because that is the copyright listed on Commons and Flickr. However, the original work appears to be in the public domain. R & L Lambry were a father (Léon) and son (Robert) who died in 1940 and 1934, respectively. French copyright, as in all of the EU, lasts for the life of the author + 70 years. I found this fairly interesting bibliography of the Lambrys: http://nouvellesuzette.canalblog.com/archives/2010/05/13/17919647.html http://nouvellesuzette.canalblog.com/archives/2010/05/13/179... And confirmed with this information from the French national library: https://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb32342632r https://catalogue.bnf.fr/ark:/12148/cb32342632r https://data.bnf.fr/10863941/leon_lambry/ https://data.bnf.fr/10863941/leon_lambry/ https://data.bnf.fr/16969919/robert_lambry/ https://data.bnf.fr/16969919/robert_lambry/
- fitnesshealth 7y agoThat is amazing i was thinking to draw sketch of animals, Thanks
- cisomag 7y agoThe language is not readable. But the drawing is awesome. Nicely displayed step by step.
- z3t4 7y agoDrawing, like m
- z3t4 7y agoDrawing like most things, you get better by training. Once you can do basic shapes and features you can also start to free draw which is fun and also still useful in this age as you can make decent looking illustrations in order to explain stuff.
- anbop 7y agoThere’s a lot of “draw the rest of the fucking owl” here. For actual step by step instructions for drawing dunces, look at Ed Emberley.
- hbbio 7y agoNote that the works seem to be in the Public Domain, since the author died in 1934 and the copyright law is 70 years after death in France. However, there is a co-author but no information is available on her/him which might extend the copyright duration. Another argument for public domain is someone translated it to English and plans to sell it (at least on Amazon): https://www.amazon.co.uk/Draw-Animal-Book-Step-Step/dp/1631598414/ref=sr_1_1?qid=1559812155&refinements=p_27%3ARobert+Lambry&s=books&sr=1-1 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Draw-Animal-Book-Step-Step/dp/16315...
- dmos62 7y agoI don't know about you, but I hate this cerebral type drawing, where you take a subject, analyse, restructure and reduce it into some components, etc. It's no fun and uses faculties that I want to rest when drawing. If I draw like this, what happens in my head is pretty much the same as when I work. I'd definitely not teach kids to draw this way. If anyone is interested in alternatives, check out Drawing on the Right Side of the Brain by Betty Edwards [0][1]. First edition came out quite a long time ago, and it has some popular neuroscience sprinkled in there from that time, but if you get through that, the actual learning material is very good. You'll be surprised how effective it is. [0] https://www.drawright.com/ https://www.drawright.com/ [1] https://www.amazon.com/dp/1585429201 https://www.amazon.com/dp/1585429201
- _carl_jung 7y agoI hope you see the irony in this comment!
- dmos62 7y agoBecause I'm coming off as cerebral myself? Haha I didn't see the conflict there when I posted, but thanks for pointing it out, and that's kind of my point: I need something to offset it, and drawing can be that thing, but it entirely depends on how you do it.
- _carl_jung 7y agoI see what you mean, you want your drawing approach to be more free-form because it lets you "take a load off" the constant categorising and logic and so on. On the other hand though, tips like those in the link could help someone to just start drawing, and might lead to making creative adjustments to those forms (like encouraging your children to try making a monster version of a deer, for example).
- dmos62 7y agoThere's also this other dimension to it that is often overlooked, and it's behind my saying "I wouldn't teach this". The analysis and reduction based method relies on your ability to digest what you see mentally and that has limitations. For example, if you asked a child to draw a rough sea, hair on somebody's head, the clouds, the forest or whatever, he would become frustrated with the sheer complexity and probably degrade to what we call "child's drawing", which is a misnomer, since most adults draw this way. Child's drawing is when you draw symbolistically: this is a head, these are lips, this is a tree, this is a bush, etc. On the other hand, if you "draw what you see" which is another horrible term, coined by me this time, you're not bothered by complexity, you celebrate and marvel at it, in a frictionless way. Again, I'm recommending that book I linked, great stuff.
- heinrichhartman 7y agoHere are my personal top 5 drawings for lazy daddies: https://twitter.com/heinrichhartman/status/1136566707147943936 https://twitter.com/heinrichhartman/status/11365667071479439...
- tigerlily 7y agoI showed this to my girlfriend who is an artist, and she basically scoffed and said, "I'm not really into that. I was taught to draw what I see." As in, don't even THINK about drawing those circles.
- optimalsolver 7y agoWhat does she do when she needs to draw something from imagination?
- seedie 7y agoIn my naive way I guess she has to abstract too, maybe unconsciously to keep proportions for example. For someone learning to draw without much talent, me, it is hard to know what is important and what to focus on. To me it seems like thats what these circles and lines are there for. Look at what is important and what proportions they have.
- varjag 7y agoThe owl is on page 29.
- tgb 7y agoSome would say that is not how you draw a (live) butterfly: http://emilydamstra.com/news/please-enough-dead-butterflies/ http://emilydamstra.com/news/please-enough-dead-butterflies/
- kiyell 7y agoThis was very insightful. I never thought about what the natural wing position of a butterfly is like.
- Pamar 7y agoThanks a lot to whoever posted this. I have recently started my new "(at least) one drawing every day" stint and I am currently working on animals (even if I tend to copy from photos) so this is very interesting to me. http://pa-mar.net/Hobbies/Drawing.html http://pa-mar.net/Hobbies/Drawing.html
- JKCalhoun 7y agoIt was a simple book like this that I had as a boy that got me into drawing. It taught me to see the simpler shapes that things are composed of — start there and build up. It also caused me to begin to think about proportion when drawing — so that an animals head is properly proportioned to their body, etc. If I were granted a wish it would be that schools had the budget to create books like this and outright give them to students to take home.
- ubu7737 7y agoI think this is actually the best book for learning to draw animals. I've had a copy for over 30 years, and I still like to go back to it sometimes. https://www.amazon.com/Draw-Animals-Perigee-Jack-Hamm/dp/0399508023 https://www.amazon.com/Draw-Animals-Perigee-Jack-Hamm/dp/039...