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<Big corporation> removes <large body of work> without notice or consultation. How often do we have these articles? Averaging once a month? Maybe more? How of

<Big corporation> removes <large body of work> without notice or consultation. How often do we have these articles? Averaging once a month? Maybe more? How often does it need to happen before people realise that your $10/mo means jack shit to a multi-million dollar company, and "accidents" like this are just a cost of business to them. Solving the problem properly would cost a lot more than just letting people fall through the cracks of automation.

SteveSmith16384 7y ago
So what should we do? What price do we need to pay to exceed the "jack shit" threshold? Specific recommendations please.
- dooglius 7y ago
  Do your own backups on physical drives you own of anything truly irreplaceable
  - arkades 7y ago
    Or host your backups on DigitalOcean.
    - yeldarb 7y ago
      Maybe not the best choice in light of them deleting this guy’s entire app, db, and backups the other day: https://twitter.com/w3Nicolas/status/1134529316904153089 https://twitter.com/w3Nicolas/status/1134529316904153089
      - arkades 7y ago
        Yeah, I didn’t miss that. I was being snarky.
      - glenneroo 7y ago
        I'm guessing GP was making a joke, considering the recent DO "scandal". BTW as was made clear by multiple HN commenters in other discussions about this incident, nothing was actually deleted, the customer's account was suspended for 30+ hours.
- apple4ever 7y ago
  Self host in multiple locations - either datacenters or cloud providers. Its the only way to be sure.
- manicdee 7y ago
  Use GitHub and similar hosting only as a public gathering place for projects, not as the sole development repository. Which is to say, develop locally and ensure you have backups, only using GitHub to share the work with others. This is the way development using git is supposed to work anyway.
a3n 7y ago
We are all Ford Pintos. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Pinto#Cost-benefit_analysis,_the_Pinto_Memo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Pinto#Cost-benefit_analys...
- xvector 7y ago
  What an interesting story, especially when you delve into the links on tort reform
arnaudsm 7y ago
Boycott is often the only solution. That's why those articles are important.
- lapinot 7y ago
  Boycott is not a solution. It's the first and very tiny step towards doing something. People need to federate, mutualise, fight as part of communities. Personal actions have as only upside making you feel good (which is still a big win, but it's pretty superficial and doesn't scale).

SteveSmith16384 7y ago

So what should we do? What price do we need to pay to exceed the "jack shit" threshold? Specific recommendations please.

dooglius 7y ago
Do your own backups on physical drives you own of anything truly irreplaceable
- arkades 7y ago
  Or host your backups on DigitalOcean.
  - yeldarb 7y ago
    Maybe not the best choice in light of them deleting this guy’s entire app, db, and backups the other day: https://twitter.com/w3Nicolas/status/1134529316904153089 https://twitter.com/w3Nicolas/status/1134529316904153089
    - arkades 7y ago
      Yeah, I didn’t miss that. I was being snarky.
    - glenneroo 7y ago
      I'm guessing GP was making a joke, considering the recent DO "scandal". BTW as was made clear by multiple HN commenters in other discussions about this incident, nothing was actually deleted, the customer's account was suspended for 30+ hours.
apple4ever 7y ago
Self host in multiple locations - either datacenters or cloud providers. Its the only way to be sure.
manicdee 7y ago
Use GitHub and similar hosting only as a public gathering place for projects, not as the sole development repository. Which is to say, develop locally and ensure you have backups, only using GitHub to share the work with others. This is the way development using git is supposed to work anyway.

a3n 7y ago

We are all Ford Pintos. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Pinto#Cost-benefit_analysis,_the_Pinto_Memo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Pinto#Cost-benefit_analys...

xvector 7y ago
What an interesting story, especially when you delve into the links on tort reform

arnaudsm 7y ago

Boycott is often the only solution. That's why those articles are important.

lapinot 7y ago
Boycott is not a solution. It's the first and very tiny step towards doing something. People need to federate, mutualise, fight as part of communities. Personal actions have as only upside making you feel good (which is still a big win, but it's pretty superficial and doesn't scale).