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I agree that it is great. I'm not sure how we convince people to not signup on sites that don't offer this SSO option. I've always struggled with the question o

I agree that it is great. I'm not sure how we convince people to not signup on sites that don't offer this SSO option. I've always struggled with the question of 'How do we convince people to care about privacy when they post their location and meal to a public social media every hour?'.

hprotagonist 7y ago
My rule, and it is a semi-idiotic one, is "i don't impulse buy from independent merchant websites that don't support apple pay at checkout". I usually email them after, too. "I actually clicked through your instagram ad, looked at some clothes that looked nice, and didn't buy anything because I was on my phone and didn't want to make a new account and add credentials to my password manager. Have you considered adding apple pay support to your shopify account?" I have no idea if i'm helping or not.
- reaperducer 7y ago
  It's dumb that so many sites require you to create an account just to buy something from them. One of the reasons I get lunch from Panera and Pei Wei is because I can check out on my phone as a guest when I order ahead. Heck, even fleaBay lets you do a guest check out now. That was what made me consider using it again.
- bscphil 7y ago
  I think it's not an idiotic idea, it's just that your idea of what counts as third-party payment support is a single smaller payment provider located mainly in the United States. I follow a similar policy, but in my case the third-party payment services are Paypal, Stripe, and Coinbase, all of which are reliable and don't require me to give financial data to the seller. Paypal seems to be near-universally supported on small ecommerce sites.
  - oefrha 7y ago
    Note that PayPal gives away your email address, and I’m not a fan of that. If a third party wants my email address, they should ask me directly (and I’ll give them a unique one); PayPal shouldn’t distribute my email address for me. Look, I use three email domains for online accounts, in addition to a unique address for each account — one domain that links to my actual identity (my public-facing, professional domain), one domain that’s somewhat anonymous, and one domain reserved for highly sensitive accounts, e.g. online banking, PayPal, AppleID, etc. And PayPal sharing my email address with third parties breaks the model, making my sensitive domain less secure.
  - hprotagonist 7y ago
    i picked shopify because i know they have an apple pay switch. i don’t care who processes the payment, i just like being able to buy physical goods without making a new account, and ideally without any more friction than faceID while impulse-buying nonsense while i’m on the toilet :)
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Nextgrid 7y ago
Convenience. This feature is good even if you don’t care about privacy. Password management is a big problem for non-technical users. Even for people who don’t know/care about security and reuse the same password everywhere, it presents a huge issue when their preferred password doesn’t meet the website’s requirements. They are then forced to make one up which they’ll never remember so it’s gonna be a headache down the line when they need to sign in again. When they learn that the magic “Sign in with Apple” button allows them to avoid all that, they’ll want it even if they don’t care about privacy.

hprotagonist 7y ago

My rule, and it is a semi-idiotic one, is "i don't impulse buy from independent merchant websites that don't support apple pay at checkout". I usually email them after, too. "I actually clicked through your instagram ad, looked at some clothes that looked nice, and didn't buy anything because I was on my phone and didn't want to make a new account and add credentials to my password manager. Have you considered adding apple pay support to your shopify account?" I have no idea if i'm helping or not.

reaperducer 7y ago
It's dumb that so many sites require you to create an account just to buy something from them. One of the reasons I get lunch from Panera and Pei Wei is because I can check out on my phone as a guest when I order ahead. Heck, even fleaBay lets you do a guest check out now. That was what made me consider using it again.
bscphil 7y ago
I think it's not an idiotic idea, it's just that your idea of what counts as third-party payment support is a single smaller payment provider located mainly in the United States. I follow a similar policy, but in my case the third-party payment services are Paypal, Stripe, and Coinbase, all of which are reliable and don't require me to give financial data to the seller. Paypal seems to be near-universally supported on small ecommerce sites.
- oefrha 7y ago
  Note that PayPal gives away your email address, and I’m not a fan of that. If a third party wants my email address, they should ask me directly (and I’ll give them a unique one); PayPal shouldn’t distribute my email address for me. Look, I use three email domains for online accounts, in addition to a unique address for each account — one domain that links to my actual identity (my public-facing, professional domain), one domain that’s somewhat anonymous, and one domain reserved for highly sensitive accounts, e.g. online banking, PayPal, AppleID, etc. And PayPal sharing my email address with third parties breaks the model, making my sensitive domain less secure.
- hprotagonist 7y ago
  i picked shopify because i know they have an apple pay switch. i don’t care who processes the payment, i just like being able to buy physical goods without making a new account, and ideally without any more friction than faceID while impulse-buying nonsense while i’m on the toilet :)

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Nextgrid 7y ago

Convenience. This feature is good even if you don’t care about privacy. Password management is a big problem for non-technical users. Even for people who don’t know/care about security and reuse the same password everywhere, it presents a huge issue when their preferred password doesn’t meet the website’s requirements. They are then forced to make one up which they’ll never remember so it’s gonna be a headache down the line when they need to sign in again. When they learn that the magic “Sign in with Apple” button allows them to avoid all that, they’ll want it even if they don’t care about privacy.