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WWDC 2019 Keynote Livestream
- Tomte 7y agoMuch useful stuff, but why oh why can't I tag photos? Or have a sane folder management in Photos?[0] Or edit MP3 metadata in Music? There's lots of low-hanging fruit on iOS. But they've been left hanging for years now. [0] Despite that I've taken the plunge into managing all my photos on iPad's Photo app. But it's painful.
- sebazzz 7y agoOne thing I'm missing is a decent way to monitor your data plan[0]. Even my previous Windows Mobile 10 (formerly Windows Phone) had this. [0] Yes, there is something, but it doesn't reset automatically. It doesn't limit. It doesn't notify. It is not more useful than the packet count of the TCP/IP properties in Windows.
- ixtli 7y agoThis is a good example of how the consumer pays for so-called "competition" between service providers. The practical effect is that they collude to fix prices and never work with downstream/upstream companies to provide obvious features like the one you're asking for.
- briandear 7y ago> The practical effect is that they collude to fix prices Any proof of collusion? Is Apple really working with AT&T to make you use more data? There's absolutely zero evidence of that.
- nikanj 7y agoNo, AT&T is working with Verizon to make you use more data.
- ixtli 7y agoWhoops sorry, i said that wrong. I was talking about things like this: https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/20/technology/att-verizon-investigate-esim.html https://www.nytimes.com/2018/04/20/technology/att-verizon-in... (att and verizon colluding to price fix.) I dont think apple is colluding with carriers.
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- JustSomeNobody 7y agoThere was something on a slide of iOS13 about a "low data mode". I am curious what that might be and if they'll revamp how you monitor your data usage.
- ixtli 7y agoI think its a big deal that they're able to capitalize on the user data abuses of Google and Facebook by making a single sign in service simply because "we wont give everyone your entire contact list when you click this button."
- oh_hello 7y agoSign in the Apple is a great idea for users. I can see developers not wanting to adopt it due to loss of customer data. I'm curious to see how adoption plays out.
- alexashka 7y agoI don't get iPadOS - it's just macOS with every power user feature disabled. But then again, I just don't get iPads...
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- matthewmacleod 7y agoIs it really that hard to imagine? There are a significant number of computer users out there who want to do things like use Facebook, check their email, order stuff from amazon, do a bit of web browsing, watch a bit of Netflix, read a book… a tablet covers those use cases in a form factor that’s a bit more convenient and portable than a laptop, and with a bigger canvas than a smartphone. I get that they might not fill a niche for everybody, but it’s not hard to see the use-cases, right?
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- reaperducer 7y agoIs it really that hard to imagine It's not. People just like to hear themselves moan on the internet. It beats working.
- muterad_murilax 7y agoLink for viewing in VLC etc: https://p-events-delivery.akamaized.net/3004qzusahnbjppuwydgjzsdyzsippar/m3u8/atv_mvp.m3u8 https://p-events-delivery.akamaized.net/3004qzusahnbjppuwydg...
- knd775 7y agoThis one wasn't limited to certain browsers/platforms like they have been in the past. You could just go to apple.com and it was there for everyone.
- tosh 7y agoI wonder how they force a full desktop-web experience for Safari on the iPad. macOS user agent?
- saagarjha 7y agoProbably. I wonder if sites will start gating on screen sizes?
- owl57 7y agoDon't they already do that? Many sites switch to mobile layout when you ctrl-+ a lot.
- ceejayoz 7y ago> I wonder if sites will start gating on screen sizes? That's what responsive design via media queries is for.
- freehunter 7y agoThis is what I don't really get about "request desktop site" or this kind of announcement... I don't know the last site I saw that serves different layouts based on browser agent, it's all based on screen size and resolution. Unless Apple is spoofing a higher resolution on an iPad, I don't see what will change. That being said, on Bootstrap (and Bootstrap-like sites) turning the 2018 base model iPad on its side will give you a col-md layout which is usually enough to trigger the desktop size.
- saagarjha 7y agoSee Google Docs.
- freehunter 7y agoWill the new desktop site mode actually enable Safari features that mobile Safari does not support? I can actually name a few sites that don't work in mobile Safari because the browser doesn't support features those apps need (AWS Cloud 9 is one) but I don't think just requesting a desktop site would actually make those sites usable.
- yohann305 7y agoMacOS, iPadOS, iOS. Mark my words, in 5 years Apple is going to come up with a brilliant idea: merge all OSes into one! BRILLIANT! (sarcasm)
- tcoff91 7y agoFinally a new mac pro. I hope I can get my company to buy me one. If i could shrink my huge C++ compile times that would be awesome.
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- whalesalad 7y agoIf you don't need macOS you can get a lot more hardware for your buck w/ PC hardware.
- mikestew 7y agoSo they brought back the cheese grater Mac Pro. Now, was that so hard? Let the shutting up and money-taking begin... However, watching them demo the new one is just a painful reminder of what an over-priced bad idea the trashcan was, and we had to put up with that shit, and the apologetics to go with it, for six years. Demo's not done, but I'm hoping I don't have to listen to Ive's smooth British accent telling me it's the best, we really mean it this time. Get the person that slayed the management dragon to get this thing built and let them do the voice-over.
- H1Supreme 7y agoDo we know if the expansion slots will take 3rd party products? Or, is it all proprietary?
- monocasa 7y agoLooks like fairly arbitrary PCI-E, but I'm going to throw out there that kexts need to be Apple notorized now so the driver situation might be rough.
- ganoushoreilly 7y agoIt looks on their page like it will support standard PCIE but there is a distinct lack of Power headers so I Imagine their new 2x PCIE interface thingy is what they're pushing.
- preinheimer 7y agoI had the old big silver Mac Pro, and while in theory it was all a standard graphics card slot, in reality you had to pay an extra ~$100 to get the "apple" version of any video card. I accidentally bought the wrong one once, spend like 2 weeks trying to like flash the firmware over, gave up and re-sold it on craigslist at a loss and bought the right one. (civ 5 still ran like crap)
- RandomUser848 7y agoIve doesn't have a smooth British accent. He sounds more like he's mentally challenged.
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- toyg 7y agoFeeling a bit “everything old is new again”. So they’re finally making a “real” power desktop again, and the big thing about iPadOS is a multi-window feature that we’ve basically had since Windows ‘95... even the macpro design looks like a direct riff on their own 20-year-old “cheesegrater”. I mean, I’m obviously happy (although i’ll likely never be able to afford a macpro). But all the rivers of (digital) ink spent on the “paradigm shift” of iOS-like forms and conventions now look pretty silly.
- no1youknowz 7y agoThe 6k screen is mind blowing. But, you know there is a macbook pro with a 6k screen somewhere deep in apple labs. Hopefully in time for when apple does the switch to arm in 2022. Apple, my money will be ready! Edit: damn the price is high, alright, I'll pay $10k for a mac pro developer edition! :P
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- dx7tnt 7y ago$999 just for the stand for the new display! Audible laughs all round.
- mxfh 7y agoand a $199 VESA adapter to escape from that to a more versatile $50 monitor arm. That stands height range looks laughable for the size of the screen. The comparably huge bezel was cleverly hidden with the black backdrop.
- theshrike79 7y ago$50 monitor arm for a $6k monitor? You are braver then I am.
- mxfh 7y agoI even sit on chairs half that price, so now you know my net worth ;)
- bt3 7y agoNice to see a new Mac Pro, but no one has mentioned price. The "entry level" Mac Pro from 2006 was $2199 and $2999 in 2013 (the last update). Even the top-of-the-line "trashcan" Mac Pro was ~$6500 with 12 cores. I don't doubt the hardware is top-notch again, but an 8-core machine (I get it's Xeon), with a 256GB SSD and 32GB of RAM with a nice graphics card for $6000 is ludicrous. Is the new case and a "revive" worth the 100% price increase for a base model? Or has Apple come to revelation that pro's will pay any price? Sidenote - 6k monitor is beautiful but $5000? The live stream I'm following jokingly mentioned the stand is $1000 extra (is that true?). Have we truly moved into $1/ pixel territory?
- mikestew 7y agoThe live stream I'm following jokingly mentioned the stand is $1000 extra (is that true?). Yup, it was on the screen and the presenter spoke the number without even cracking a smile. Must have practiced in the bathroom mirror for hours to pull that off.
- ryanmcbride 7y agoMoved on fast to squash those grumbles that were rising
- saagarjha 7y agoThere was an audible gasp from the audience after hearing that price.
- ordinaryradical 7y agoI feel like the misguided dongle philosophy has somehow been extended all the way to this. The idea that the stand is a separate price is just crazy to me, that it's a thousand dollars, absurd.
- cs02rm0 7y agoSomehow I doubt they'll be selling $1000 monitor stands in a few years. I can't quite believe they were saying someone would turn one of the monitors 90 degrees to write code. Why anyone would spend $6k on a monitor to write code is beyond me.
- balls187 7y agoThe find My tracking, and activation is very worrying.
- toyg 7y agoSupposedly it’s end-to-end encrypted. Basically a p2p architecture of sort. I guess we’ll have to wait for CCC validation and/or shenanigans...
- ihuman 7y agoHow come? You can already do that with Find My Mac; this is just making the remote locking ability more lower-level.
- balls187 7y agoWhile Apple has been pretty good with privacy, there are long been rumored exploits in apple hardware (iirc snowden talked about it) used by state intelligence agencies. Providing this capability gives an additional vector to be exploited. It also may be implemented less securely in other devices, as other manufacturers see the market appeal, leading to more invasive tracking. And, while I generally trust Apple, I don't like the idea that Apple can lock me out of my device should they choose too.
- scarface74 7y agoIt’s much easier just to buy location data from the cell phone providers. They were selling it willingly.
- toyg 7y agoSelling? State authorities get it for free in most countries.
- threatofrain 7y agoThe new Swift UI framework reminds me so much of Flutter.
- tonyedgecombe 7y agoI think that was the most interesting part of the presentation. Does it mean the end of AppKit and UIKit?
- simongr3dal 7y agoIt looks like SwiftUI just gives a better interface to Appkit and UIKit than before.
- briandear 7y agoApple could literally cure cancer and people would complain about the price or lament that it doesn't also cure diabetes.
- tsmarsh 7y agoI work for Novartis. We did cure a couple of cancers using bespoke technologies that don't scale particularly well. The prices are ludicrous ($250-500k), but then it does take a team of scientists weeks of time per patient and its a single treatment... but it doesn't cure diabetes. The Apple-ifying of cancer treatment has started.
- thefounder 7y agoIs it just me or the pro display is overpriced? 2nd why do they compare it(a led display) with an oled pro display from Sony? What a bunch of misleading marketers!
- sasasassy 7y agoEverything is overpriced. Everything they've done has been overpriced for years. They're a marketing company first, selling overpriced iThings because they're status symbols to people with poor judgment and too much money.
- imagetic 7y agoThere are also rivals to that sony monitor in the $4000 range for reference hardware. It's extremely misleading. It is a really nice display though, but $5k is a painful price point. I would have preferred a retina 27" with those features, 4k is more than enough.
- satysin 7y agoOverall that was a very good WWDC keynote IMHO. The Mac Pro and Pro Display XDR certainly seem to deliver on what "everyone" has been asking for over the past few years. Those prices are in another solar system to consumers so we will without question hear a lot of moaning that Apple are over-charging and such which isn't really true. The reality is that kind of performance is way beyond what a consumer would need and those prices are perfectly in line with similar devices. Some nice additions iOS/iPadOS (Am I the only one who is irked it isn't iPhoneOS, iPadOS, etc??) that certainly makes the iPad Pro a more Pro device. I bought and returned an iPad Pro back in February because iOS was a huge limiting factor. I said at the time "iOS on iPad Pro is two years behind the Pro hardware" and I stand by that but it seems iOS 13 with bring that down to one year behind the hardware. Hopefully in 2020 we will see iPadOS mature to the point that the iPad Pro is a true professional device. Info on macOS Catalina was basically zero though. Some new apps to replace iTunes which we have known about for months now. Sync moving into Finder. The only interesting thing was Voice Control which is think is superb. I always champion accessibility so seeing Apple expand voice control is great. I feel they can improve the experience as there was a lot of needless filler words but it is a great step. Some interesting improvements to Safari on iOS/iPadOS but no word on what, if anything, is changing with Safari on macOS? With their new extension model coming into effect with Safari 13 I was hoping to see Apple say something about improvements to adblocking/tracking as we will be losing access to Unlock Origin which is a huge blow and I am unsure if I will be able to use Safari without it tbh. Sidecar will be nice although it is a damn shame that the iPad Pro screen will be the better screen with its beautiful 120Hz Pro Motion display compared to the lower resolution 60Hz one in the MacBook Pro. Hopefully we will see Pro Motion screens in next years MacBook Pro! For me personally the most interesting new feature is "Sign-in with Apple" and their unique email forwarding service. I have always refused to use the Google sign-in but with what Apple showed I think I would use Sign-in with Apple. At least for new services that I am unsure about at first. For all Apple's faults I respect that they do take users privacy seriously. So with the exception of macOS news I thought it was a very strong keynote that positions Apple well for the next few years providing they deliver on their words with the Mac Pro! The only mistake was mentioning the price for the new display accessories. $999 for a stand wasn't going to go down well and the audible groan was amusing. Now to check out the actual developer news over the next few days :)
- HugoDaniel 7y agoWho is going to give up that money on an Intel in 2019 ? A few months later it will be running at half the speed due to new sploits being found.
- lewis1028282 7y agoWas U2F or FIDO2 or WebAuth announced for Safari? Chrome, Firefox and Opera have it, about time Safari added it too.
- jibanes 7y agoThis monitor the "Pro Display XDR" is to glossy for hours of coding imho. That is, you don't need 6k for coding either, so that's probably not their audience.
- intellix 7y agoNo mention of the refresh rate for the monitor? Seems strange that it's not mentioned so I'm guessing it's 60Hz which sucks when you've used 144