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1) Wait, does DuckDuckGo use Bing’s search index? 2) A good solution would do both- open up the underlying data while breaking up the various ad sales business

1) Wait, does DuckDuckGo use Bing’s search index? 2) A good solution would do both- open up the underlying data while breaking up the various ad sales businesses. A great example is YouTube- YouTube should not be able to single handedly demonetize videos- creators should be able to opt in to alternative ad networks so long as they aren’t violating the TOS, keeping Tuba instructional videos in the black (https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/04/youtube-demonetized-my-tuba-videos-also-i-make-tuba-videos/ https://arstechnica.com/gaming/2018/04/youtube-demonetized-m...)

guyzero 7y ago
Yeah, I love how he basically admits in public that DDG is just a skin on Bing.
beebmam 7y ago
In my humble opinion, I think the "monetization" of youtube videos has produced a marketplace of clickbait and extreme content. I'd like to roll back the clock to when youtube itself took all (or at least most) of its advertising income from its users' videos.
- furst 7y ago
  I mean, it's not hard to avoid clickbait or poor quality content. I'd say that without the prospect of earning money a lot of quality content wouldn't exist. Of course wherever there's income there will be people trying to exploit it, but I think that YouTube wouldn't be what it is today if content creators didn't get paid.
ocdtrekkie 7y ago
DDG's statement on their sources is that they have over 400: https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/?redir=1 https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/?redir=1 But that is largely with respect to "answers" type responses, which they are not lifting from Bing. Search results come from partners "including" Oath/Yahoo and Bing. And I think Yahoo uses Bing. But I know that DDG uses Yandex sometimes as well, so there's probably a handful of potential sources they draw from for search.
gist 7y ago
> 1) Wait, does DuckDuckGo use Bing’s search index? They do what a company called metacrawler did back in the 90's (and I see still does now) but w/o the privacy angle and whatever other bells and whistles DDG adds. It also crawls but I don't know what percentage of that makes up the index. Generally I don't believe it's a very large part from memory. https://www.searchenginejournal.com/duckduckgo-seo/252165/#close https://www.searchenginejournal.com/duckduckgo-seo/252165/#c...
ChrisCinelli 7y ago
On (1), I always wondered how DuckDuckGo's search works. I just run some queries on Google, Bing and DuckDuckGo. For long tail queries the DuckDuckGo's and Bing's results are almost identical.

guyzero 7y ago

Yeah, I love how he basically admits in public that DDG is just a skin on Bing.

beebmam 7y ago

In my humble opinion, I think the "monetization" of youtube videos has produced a marketplace of clickbait and extreme content. I'd like to roll back the clock to when youtube itself took all (or at least most) of its advertising income from its users' videos.

furst 7y ago
I mean, it's not hard to avoid clickbait or poor quality content. I'd say that without the prospect of earning money a lot of quality content wouldn't exist. Of course wherever there's income there will be people trying to exploit it, but I think that YouTube wouldn't be what it is today if content creators didn't get paid.

ocdtrekkie 7y ago

DDG's statement on their sources is that they have over 400: https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/?redir=1 https://help.duckduckgo.com/results/sources/?redir=1 But that is largely with respect to "answers" type responses, which they are not lifting from Bing. Search results come from partners "including" Oath/Yahoo and Bing. And I think Yahoo uses Bing. But I know that DDG uses Yandex sometimes as well, so there's probably a handful of potential sources they draw from for search.

gist 7y ago

> 1) Wait, does DuckDuckGo use Bing’s search index? They do what a company called metacrawler did back in the 90's (and I see still does now) but w/o the privacy angle and whatever other bells and whistles DDG adds. It also crawls but I don't know what percentage of that makes up the index. Generally I don't believe it's a very large part from memory. https://www.searchenginejournal.com/duckduckgo-seo/252165/#close https://www.searchenginejournal.com/duckduckgo-seo/252165/#c...

ChrisCinelli 7y ago

On (1), I always wondered how DuckDuckGo's search works. I just run some queries on Google, Bing and DuckDuckGo. For long tail queries the DuckDuckGo's and Bing's results are almost identical.