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You obviously don't recall the early years of AWS. Half of internet would go down for hours.
by murat124 7y ago
You obviously don't recall the early years of AWS. Half of internet would go down for hours.
- ljm 7y agoAlways in Virginia, because US-east has always been cheaper.
- mooreds 7y agoI know a consultant who calls that region us-tirefire-1.
- autotune 7y agoI and some previous coworkers call it the YOLO region.
- Scoundreller 7y agoAnd for those of us in GST/HST/VAT land, hosting in USA saves us some tax expenditures.
- BillinghamJ 7y agoYou know, normally you still have to pay that tax - just through a reverse charge process
- Scoundreller 7y agoNot the case in Canada if you’re not an HST registrant (non-business or a small enough business where you’re exempt). Even if you did have to self-assess, better to pay later than right away.
- AnssiH 7y agoHow? At least in EU services bought from overseas are subject to reverse charge, i.e. self-assessment of VAT (Article 196 of https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:02006L0112-20190116 https://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/?uri=CELEX:02... ). Though note that if you are an EU AWS customer, you are not buying from outside EU, you are buying from Amazon's EU branches regardless of AWS region. If Amazon has a local branch in your country, they charge you VAT as any local company does. Otherwise you buy from an Amazon branch in another EU country, and you again need to self-assess VAT (reverse charge) per Article 196.
- Scoundreller 7y agoMy experience is with Canadian HST. Since AWS built a DC in Canada, I’m paying HST on my Route53 expenses, but not on my S3 charges in non-Canadian DCs. I’m not an HST registrant (small supplier, or if you’re just using services personally), so there’s nothing to self-assess. Even if self-assessment was required, you get some deferral on paying (unless you have to remit at time of invoice?).
- AnssiH 7y agoMakes sense. I believe it works differently in EU (i.e. US DCs taxed) as per Article 44 the place of supply of services is the customer's country if the customer has no establishment in the supplier's country.
- paranoidrobot 7y agoAWS is registered for Australian GST - they therefore charge GST on all(ish) services[0]. IBM/Softlayer, Rackspace, Google Cloud, Microsoft and I imagine everyone else large enough to count also does, too. For Australian businesses, at least, being charged GST isn't a problem - they can claim it as an input and get a tax credit[1]. [0] https://aws.amazon.com/tax-help/australia/ https://aws.amazon.com/tax-help/australia/ [1] https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/GST/Claiming-GST-credits/ https://www.ato.gov.au/Business/GST/Claiming-GST-credits/
- thruhiker 7y agoThe only regions that are more expensive than us-east-1 in the States are GovCloud and us-west-1 (Bay Area). Both us-west-2 (Oregon) and us-east-2 (Ohio) are priced the same as us-east-1.
- angstrom 7y agoI would probably go with US-EAST-2 just because it's isolated from anything except perhaps a freak Tornado and better situated on the eastern US. Latency to/from there should be near optimal for most eastern US/Canada population.
- thruhiker 7y agoOne caveat with us-east-2 is that it appears to get new features after us-east-1 and us-west-2. You can view the service support by region here: https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/regional-product-services/ https://aws.amazon.com/about-aws/global-infrastructure/regio....
- angstrom 7y agoFair point. It depends on what the project is.
- djsumdog 7y agoBack when S3 failures would take town Reddit, parts of Twitter .. Netflix survived because they had additional availability zones. I can remember the bigger names started moving more stuff to their own data centers. AWS tries to lock people in to specific services now which makes it really difficult to migrate. It also takes a while before you get to the tipping point where hosting your own is more financially viable .. and then if you trying migrating, you're stuck using so many of their services you can't even do cost comparisons.
- StreamBright 7y agoI am not sure if a single S3 outage pushed any big names into their own "datacenter". S3 has still the world record of reliability that you cannot challenge with your inhouse solutions. You can prove it otherwise. I would love to hear a solution that has the same durability, avabiality and scalability as S3. For the downvoters, please just link here the proof if you disagree. Here are the S3 numbers: https://aws.amazon.com/s3/sla/ https://aws.amazon.com/s3/sla/
- fusl 7y ago> For the downvoters, please just link here the proof if you disagree. https://wasabi.com/ https://wasabi.com/
- snazz 7y agoHow can they possibly guarantee eleven nines? Considering I’ve never heard of this company and they offer such crazy-sounding improvements over the big three, it feels like there should be a catch.
- johnmaguire2013 7y agoFor data durability? I believe some AWS offerings also have an SLA of eleven 9's of data durability.
- ignoramous 7y ago
- threeseed 7y agoMostly because those sites were never architected to work across multiple availability zones.