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Through your friends and family that interact with you and who aren't so careful with their data. Through browser fingerprinting that is shared via channels wh

Through your friends and family that interact with you and who aren't so careful with their data. Through browser fingerprinting that is shared via channels which are undetectable and unlockable via browser scripts. Through hundreds of many tiny mistakes you make every day and unknowingly let down your guard. _Oops, damn, I forgot I disabled uBlock when accessing that important page for work._ You cannot opt out.

oefrha 7y ago
None of those channels can be shutdown by breaking up Google or other tech giants, let alone imposing a fine. As long as there's a very popular communications service / social networking service / etc., or even a few of them (none of which dominates the entire market), you can't stop other people from turning in your data (unless you have no connections whatsoever in this world, or you and all your connections live in a cave). And if you use any popular service or visit any popular website yourself, your data will be collected, it's only a matter of the level of details.
- squeaky-clean 7y ago
  But at the very least my mom's contact list shouldn't be able to be used to send me targeted ads in search or suggest contacts to me in Gmail. It would be isolated to those products owned by that newly split off sub-company. Sure any 3rd party app I install can track me to some degree, but it can't compare my usage against my entire email history, my travel history, recordings of my voice...
  - oefrha 7y ago
    > my entire email history, my travel history, recordings of my voice GGP was talking about data collected involuntarily, and I was responding to that. Google (or any other company) can't have your entire email history, your travel history, and recordings of your voice without your voluntary participation in one of their services or services of a "partner". Those are way beyond drive-by collection.
    - squeaky-clean 7y ago
      But then on top of that they're free to merge it with involuntarily collected data. I'm talking about how you can't agree to just give them X. They take XYZ, and A and B and C about you from someone else.... There is no way to only use a Google service and also disable drive by collection. And because they're so huge and cover so many categories, that drive by info is more meaningful in their hands than just a dozen random unconnected companies. Because of that, drive by collection by other 3rd party doesn't really concern me as much. They can't do nearly as much with it.

oefrha 7y ago

None of those channels can be shutdown by breaking up Google or other tech giants, let alone imposing a fine. As long as there's a very popular communications service / social networking service / etc., or even a few of them (none of which dominates the entire market), you can't stop other people from turning in your data (unless you have no connections whatsoever in this world, or you and all your connections live in a cave). And if you use any popular service or visit any popular website yourself, your data will be collected, it's only a matter of the level of details.

squeaky-clean 7y ago
But at the very least my mom's contact list shouldn't be able to be used to send me targeted ads in search or suggest contacts to me in Gmail. It would be isolated to those products owned by that newly split off sub-company. Sure any 3rd party app I install can track me to some degree, but it can't compare my usage against my entire email history, my travel history, recordings of my voice...
- oefrha 7y ago
  > my entire email history, my travel history, recordings of my voice GGP was talking about data collected involuntarily, and I was responding to that. Google (or any other company) can't have your entire email history, your travel history, and recordings of your voice without your voluntary participation in one of their services or services of a "partner". Those are way beyond drive-by collection.
  - squeaky-clean 7y ago
    But then on top of that they're free to merge it with involuntarily collected data. I'm talking about how you can't agree to just give them X. They take XYZ, and A and B and C about you from someone else.... There is no way to only use a Google service and also disable drive by collection. And because they're so huge and cover so many categories, that drive by info is more meaningful in their hands than just a dozen random unconnected companies. Because of that, drive by collection by other 3rd party doesn't really concern me as much. They can't do nearly as much with it.