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This is exactly the problem: the fallacy of self exclusion on the part of those who would rule or otherwise think for us. If humans are all vulnerable to all t
by api 7y ago
This is exactly the problem: the fallacy of self exclusion on the part of those who would rule or otherwise think for us.
If humans are all vulnerable to all these manipulative tactics, where are we supposed to get humans who are not?
There is another alternative: reclassify exploitation of cognitive failure modes as a type of initiation of force. We already do this with deception in certain areas like con artistry, giving false testimony, bad faith in business, etc. Maybe we need to vastly expand our notion of tortious or civilly actionable deception to include clear use of dark patterns.
The idea that we are perfectly rational and can deal with any form of deception is perhaps the intangible analog of saying we are impervious to bullets. If that's not true, then it is the responsibility of law enforcement to protect us.
This is kind of radical of course. It would lead to regulations on speech that classify certain kinds of speech as assault.
The more I see of this emerging mass mind control dystopia the harder it is for me to think of non-radical solutions.
- microcolonel 7y ago> ...reclassify exploitation of cognitive failure modes as a type of initiation of force. Yeah, I think there's some room for that, and the law (as you point out) is already somewhat headed that way. I think we need to be careful also not to write laws we can't afford to enforce fairly, or read too much into people's private interactions. I remember having to help my employer prove that they were not the reason I wasn't in school when I was 17; and I think even with that they were still at my mercy. As a result of this, and a pretty large number of other experiences, I'm very very sensitive to the unintended outcomes of the law, and the limits of legislators' ability to understand what precisely they are doing.
- CyanBird 7y ago>The more I see of this emerging mass mind control dystopia the harder it is for me to think of non-radical solutions. You should 100% see the adamn Curtis documentary I mentioned above and read up on manufacture of consent https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tTBWfkE7BXU https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tTBWfkE7BXU What you mention is already the case, it is fully within the interest of the decentralized power holders and policy makers for them to control the population via the information that's fed to them, that's why the Iraq invasion happened in the first place, that's why the US continues to try spread fear about Iran or China. There is no way to destroy that machinery, only repurpose it for different means